My question has to do with our opening game in each of the four years that TC has been head coach. I know in his first year and this year we've played Cleveland State, but don't remember who we played in his second and third years. Does anyone know?
And my crazy idea is this. The Saturday loss to CSU brings to mind the BYU game and the Manhattan home game two years back. And I know there have been others where we've blown a big half time lead, but I can't think of any specifics. Well here's my crazy idea: Instead of starting the second half with the same five who started the game we put in five players who didn't get into the first half, and if they did, they played sparingly. So this past Saturday we would have sent out Gomez, Ellis, Scott, Hines and Robinson. The goal would have been to play them for four minutes, and then return the 'starters'. I feel this MIGHT accomplish the following-The guys who started the second half would give maximum effort, sensing that they are a real part of the game plan. And when the starters do return, assuming that the lead would have been shrunk, they would see themselves as saviours, and would also put out maximum effort. And at the very least no real early fouls would have been incurred by the starters. Does anyone like the idea?
Post by hawaii bill on Nov 10, 2013 23:21:17 GMT -5
I think we played Purdue the first game of Cluess's second year in a tournament. Last year we played Quinny I believe in the first game of last year's tournament.
I was thinking more along the lines of building up a big lead with our "offensive" unit, then bringing in our "half-court" unit to close it out.
My question has to do with our opening game in each of the four years that TC has been head coach. I know in his first year and this year we've played Cleveland State, but don't remember who we played in his second and third years. Does anyone know?
And my crazy idea is this. The Saturday loss to CSU brings to mind the BYU game and the Manhattan home game two years back. And I know there have been others where we've blown a big half time lead, but I can't think of any specifics. Well here's my crazy idea: Instead of starting the second half with the same five who started the game we put in five players who didn't get into the first half, and if they did, they played sparingly. So this past Saturday we would have sent out Gomez, Ellis, Scott, Hines and Robinson. The goal would have been to play them for four minutes, and then return the 'starters'. I feel this MIGHT accomplish the following-The guys who started the second half would give maximum effort, sensing that they are a real part of the game plan. And when the starters do return, assuming that the lead would have been shrunk, they would see themselves as saviours, and would also put out maximum effort. And at the very least no real early fouls would have been incurred by the starters. Does anyone like the idea?
From one of the most knowledgable and respected posters on the board comes an idea that if it made sense , coaches all over the country would implement....and none do
Tiger, I've based my crazy idea on Iona blowing huge half time leads. I'm not sure if OTHER teams have had that same problem, recently. And your take that if it had any value, other teams would have done it, is crazy also. Some team has to be first, and for all I know maybe some other team is doing it. But you're probably right, as I've said it's a crazy idea. What if I modify it to say anyone with two first half fouls doesn't start the second half?
Now, the reason for my question. I'm told that under TC, we are 1-3 in season openers. Since only one game was played at home and we won that game, that could be the answer. However, for selfish reasons I wanted us to play exhibitions rather than closed scrimmages, but rationalized that scrimmages better prepared us for the 'season'. Is it possible they don't, and it's time to play at least one exhibition? What does everyone think?
Iona failed to duplicate the solid effort in the first half by playing a completely different style in the second. One other observation I had was that the substitution pattern in the second half appeared to lack the same flow the Gaels implemented in the first. I'm from the philosophy of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
IC59, I like your idea of thinking outside the box but in my opinion your suggestion would cause 5 or 6 kids who played well in the first half to be puzzled and question why they are not in the game (especially with 1/2 of the game to be played). May cause some confidence issues and finger pointing.
Or maybe based on Tim's approach to recruiting we have several new bodies each year that need game time to adjust and learn the system?
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...And stay with the system when the other guy makes a run, and they will make a run.
MoMo went outside "the system" a lot last year because he could pull it off. I don't see "that guy" on this year's team. Maybe David, but you have to clear the lane for him to be "that guy", which takes us right back to the system to clear the lane. HUH??
My question has to do with our opening game in each of the four years that TC has been head coach. I know in his first year and this year we've played Cleveland State, but don't remember who we played in his second and third years. Does anyone know?
And my crazy idea is this. The Saturday loss to CSU brings to mind the BYU game and the Manhattan home game two years back. And I know there have been others where we've blown a big half time lead, but I can't think of any specifics. Well here's my crazy idea: Instead of starting the second half with the same five who started the game we put in five players who didn't get into the first half, and if they did, they played sparingly. So this past Saturday we would have sent out Gomez, Ellis, Scott, Hines and Robinson. The goal would have been to play them for four minutes, and then return the 'starters'. I feel this MIGHT accomplish the following-The guys who started the second half would give maximum effort, sensing that they are a real part of the game plan. And when the starters do return, assuming that the lead would have been shrunk, they would see themselves as saviours, and would also put out maximum effort. And at the very least no real early fouls would have been incurred by the starters. Does anyone like the idea?
I would think that starting 5 players of lesser talent in the second half would lead to poor performance. I thnk it is up to your best players to keep the run going. If the others could do it, they would be getting more minutes.
My question has to do with our opening game in each of the four years that TC has been head coach. I know in his first year and this year we've played Cleveland State, but don't remember who we played in his second and third years. Does anyone know?
And my crazy idea is this. The Saturday loss to CSU brings to mind the BYU game and the Manhattan home game two years back. And I know there have been others where we've blown a big half time lead, but I can't think of any specifics. Well here's my crazy idea: Instead of starting the second half with the same five who started the game we put in five players who didn't get into the first half, and if they did, they played sparingly. So this past Saturday we would have sent out Gomez, Ellis, Scott, Hines and Robinson. The goal would have been to play them for four minutes, and then return the 'starters'. I feel this MIGHT accomplish the following-The guys who started the second half would give maximum effort, sensing that they are a real part of the game plan. And when the starters do return, assuming that the lead would have been shrunk, they would see themselves as saviours, and would also put out maximum effort. And at the very least no real early fouls would have been incurred by the starters. Does anyone like the idea?
Your loco. This is division one basketball and a team that has made the ncaa tournament two out of the last three years. These coaches get paid to win and get paid very well for wins and appearances. Save that strategy for the youth leagues or playstation.
Tiger, I've based my crazy idea on Iona blowing huge half time leads. I'm not sure if OTHER teams have had that same problem, recently. And your take that if it had any value, other teams would have done it, is crazy also. Some team has to be first, and for all I know maybe some other team is doing it. But you're probably right, as I've said it's a crazy idea. What if I modify it to say anyone with two first half fouls doesn't start the second half?
Now, the reason for my question. I'm told that under TC, we are 1-3 in season openers. Since only one game was played at home and we won that game, that could be the answer. However, for selfish reasons I wanted us to play exhibitions rather than closed scrimmages, but rationalized that scrimmages better prepared us for the 'season'. Is it possible they don't, and it's time to play at least one exhibition? What does everyone think?[/quote]IC-59. ********* As the opportunity to see and become familiar to the team seems to diminish each year, I'm 100& with you...As to your ''crazy idea''.......''Any change will be an improvement'', and the idea has much merit.....We are the prodigal son of College Basketball, and its about time to return home...
We can accomplish this by increasing our OOC schedule and home local rival games each by 2 games a year and keeping the MAAC competitive...How?....By establishing a 16 game MAAC schedule with each team playing the other twice in all but once every 5 years...This would take some creative scheduling, but would give teams a chance for breathing room, to become more fan friendly and keep the schedule from becoming stale.......I feel sure that somewhere in each of our Colleges there is a person of knowledge qualified to create such a schedule.....
Hand in hand with the proposed increased Hines seating capacity would attract and allow for the attendance rise sure to come.................''Out of the box'' thoughts of a bored but still mind active old man...
IC59, I think your suggestion has merit. Half time adjustments by the opposition often are designed to stop or take the ball out of our hottest players hands. By changing our look for at least a few minutes we can abort the adjustments.
IC59, I think your suggestion has merit. Half time adjustments by the opposition often are designed to stop or take the ball out of our hottest players hands. By changing our look for at least a few minutes we can abort the adjustments.
Yes. They won't know which of our substitutes to cover. Uh huh
