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Post by iona1970 on Jan 7, 2014 18:29:41 GMT -5
chels, you said it was a step up and a result of being great for 3 yrs, being the 8th or 9th best player on a roster is not my idea of a get for being in the NCAA tourn 2 yrs and the CIT final
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Post by gregcrow on Jan 7, 2014 19:06:52 GMT -5
I never mentioned rotations and experimenting? I don't know how you got that. He runs a run, run, run style. You may not like it, but he picks players to play in that system. The only half court sets that I remember were with Scott. And they weren't used often. Iona practices with a 10-second shot clock. Half court sets don't work when you plan to put up a shot within 10 seconds. With you 100% I'll start whining about Cluess AFTER the first year we don't go to the post-season under him. In addition, I recall quite a few half court sets in the MAAC tourney last year. Patience children. By the way - last night sucked. what a nightmare. We move on...
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Post by ic1983 on Jan 7, 2014 19:17:24 GMT -5
Our offense is pretty damn good, so I'm not sure why we are talking so much about it being a problem.
The thing that frustrates me is that just a little time and attention to defense and rebounding, plus real effort, would yield huge dividends.
Yet we don't seem to do it.
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Post by gregcrow on Jan 7, 2014 19:22:50 GMT -5
I would gladly rather be in the tourney every year as a 15 seed. That would facilitate recruiting and retention. It would help strengthen the fan base and likely improve finances and OOC scheduling. Over time that 15 seed would become a higher seed. Nothing like consistent success to feed a program. I am certain President Nyre, the Board of Trustees and Alumni would love that situation. As Guy noted "ANY NCAA TRIP IS A GOOD TRIP". I pray we have that situation. As I recall Duke was a non-factor program before Coach K arrived and got the ball rolling with some success. Not comparing our program to Duke's, but we have to start somewhere. I would welcome consistent success over the long term and the benefits it would bring like name recognition with recruits/coaches and dare say the local media. Absolutely. What we need to remember is that this staff is in their 4th year. I would venture to guess that each and every coach on this staff has the goal of winning an NCAA game or two in mind and probably think about when they are recruiting. You don't think Cluess would love to win some NCAA games? The problem is, with the resources they have, that ain't so easy to do. They have made the first step. Probably the most successful first three years of any coach in our history. Yes, that includes Valavano. My only hope is that this coach sticks around long enough to achieve that. I know he works hard, I know he's talented and smart. Really has nothing to prove. That's enough for me. Now, no more losing to Quinnipiac - PLEASE!
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Post by gregcrow on Jan 7, 2014 19:23:50 GMT -5
Our offense is pretty damn good, so I'm not sure why we are talking so much about it being a problem. The thing that frustrates me is that just a little time and attention to defense and rebounding, plus real effort, would yield huge dividends. Yet we don't seem to do it. What was the final score of the MAAC final last year? Patience.
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Post by hawaii bill on Jan 7, 2014 19:32:08 GMT -5
Our offense is pretty damn good, so I'm not sure why we are talking so much about it being a problem. The thing that frustrates me is that just a little time and attention to defense and rebounding, plus real effort, would yield huge dividends. Yet we don't seem to do it. I'm not sure that is the case. I don't know if we can play Cluess's way AND be a good defensive/rebounding team at this level. I'm just frustrated because I can make one game a year and the game was over after five minutes. I love how the guys kept competing, but we dug too big of a hole to climb out of. I don't know if it was the guys' effort last night in the first half or the game plan that sunk us.
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Post by ic1983 on Jan 7, 2014 19:45:38 GMT -5
Our offense is pretty damn good, so I'm not sure why we are talking so much about it being a problem. The thing that frustrates me is that just a little time and attention to defense and rebounding, plus real effort, would yield huge dividends. Yet we don't seem to do it. I'm not sure that is the case. I don't know if we can play Cluess's way AND be a good defensive/rebounding team at this level. I'm just frustrated because I can make one game a year and the game was over after five minutes. I love how the guys kept competing, but we dug too big of a hole to climb out of. I don't know if it was the guys' effort last night in the first half or the game plan that sunk us. Bill, the point is not that we have to become a good defense team. And I'm not suggesting that we become a team focused on defense. Not who we are. However, we do need to become better at at D and rebounding. That we can do, if we want to.
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Post by iona1970 on Jan 7, 2014 22:36:32 GMT -5
greg, my problem is when running up and down the court doesn't work we don't have a half court game, period. yesterday was a time we needed to run plays until we got on track and we ran no plays. Greg, you are a great fan that goes to as many games as you can, so lets try the same question i keep asking, name a play that we run, do we call out numbers, names or hand signals? NOBODY KNOWS!!! Cluess is a good coach with a good system, but he is stubborn so when it doesn't work we have nothing to fall back on. Its the same as everyone saying i'm wrong we must run plays and i'm the only idiot that doesn't see them, we all go to the games, we would know our plays that is the only point I was trying to make, why can't we have 5 go to plays that would also help at the end of the many tight games we have blown. We are lucky that we have cluess and grasso to get the players to put us in the situation to be this good and with a little adjustment we can take the next step.
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Post by GuyF on Jan 8, 2014 12:10:21 GMT -5
This thread was delicious. Well done, everyone.
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Post by iona1970 on Jan 8, 2014 12:19:21 GMT -5
guy, you go to a lot of games can you answer my question- and again not saying he is bad he wins 20 games just asking a question.
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Post by GuyF on Jan 8, 2014 13:16:56 GMT -5
I don't even know what your question is.
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Post by iona1970 on Jan 8, 2014 15:15:42 GMT -5
do we have plays- are they called out by names, numbers or hand signals? I have probably been to 75 games and so have you since cluess took over and have never seen a half court or inbounds play called.
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Post by chelseadal on Jan 8, 2014 15:25:24 GMT -5
do we have plays- are they called out by names, numbers or hand signals? I have probably been to 75 games and so have you since cluess took over and have never seen a half court or inbounds play called. I believe Guy calls the plays from the stands with hand signals for home games.
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Post by unowho on Jan 8, 2014 15:32:35 GMT -5
do we have plays- are they called out by names, numbers or hand signals? I have probably been to 75 games and so have you since cluess took over and have never seen a half court or inbounds play called. I can think of four set plays if you watch: 1. AJ/Gomez/Sledge give a shirt tug when coming up into the half court set which I believes call for a high ball screen and the attack from the PG position. 2. Laury runs the point in an effort to attack and go one on one 3. The weave which is designed to get the defense moving and open the floor for attack 4. Their is another when Sean starts somewhere on the block and ends up with screen and hopefully a good look for a open 3 around the top of the arc. Our transition game is basic by the numbers, 5 takes it out of bounds, 2 and 3 hit the corners, 4 hits the block and 1 runs the point.
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Post by iona1970 on Jan 8, 2014 16:21:58 GMT -5
yes, 2 and 3are not plays- my question is have you seen a play called? is this we can't inbound the ball either its a simple question
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