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Post by husker76 on Oct 20, 2014 8:32:46 GMT -5
Critical evaluation helps to temper expectations that might be a little too optimistic. My expectations are that Iona will be a very good MAAC team that will win at least one game we shouldn't have and lose one that we shoudn't have. Looking forward to the team coming together as a unit as everyone figures out their role and enjoying the offensive explosions when they click. Hope they have as much fun playing together as we do watching. Praying for good health as they ready for the start of the season. Can hardly wait for this year's surprises.
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Post by GuyF on Oct 20, 2014 8:54:28 GMT -5
*As for disagreeing with Guy, it's his use of the word, Dude. More suited for the MAAC Board. And maybe it's a generational thing, but to me it's disrespectful. And on this board/your board while we don't always agree with each other, we always (most times) seem to respect their opinions. Agree. But OT's post was disrespectful too. After posts from others, he countered with his own take, and then described his own post as a "realistic view", suggesting that the rest of us are living in a world of fairy pixies of maroon and gold. Where's the outrage for that? OT knows I love him but sometimes he's gotta be reigned in. He admits himself that he posts on the edge--which is great, and why we love him. But when you cross over to disrespectful, it's my role as moderator to step in. If that offends, so be it. |
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Post by gtm72 on Oct 20, 2014 13:00:19 GMT -5
Dude... don't apologize to that dude. Spirited debate is what this board is all about. While the term "Dude" is rather informal... it is in no way inappropriate; especially when considering the observed format over the past several years. Posters often seem to get "offended" when faced with realities of the their own comments and do not like being "called out" on them. This appears to be a classic case of "Sour Prunes".
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Post by ic59 on Oct 20, 2014 13:03:13 GMT -5
Guy, a good explanation. However, WE ALL think that our views are the only correct/reasonable ones, and I for one didn't think that he had crossed the line, though others may feel differently. At least that is what my wife tells me. Let's just move on.
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Post by GuyF on Oct 20, 2014 14:16:20 GMT -5
Guy, a good explanation. However, WE ALL think that our views are the only correct/reasonable ones You're right, but we all don't tell the others that. |
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Post by epatrick on Oct 20, 2014 17:30:03 GMT -5
Guy, a good explanation. However, WE ALL think that our views are the only correct/reasonable ones You're right, but we all don't tell the others that. It's implied. |
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Post by oldtimer on Oct 21, 2014 10:48:49 GMT -5
Dude... don't apologize to that dude. Spirited debate is what this board is all about. While the term "Dude" is rather informal... it is in no way inappropriate; especially when considering the observed format over the past several years. Posters often seem to get "offended" when faced with realities of the their own comments and do not like being "called out" on them. This appears to be a classic case of "Sour Prunes".[/quote] GTM73.......Being addressed as 'Dude' does not bother or offend me in the least, in fact I was rather surprised and amused...After half a lifetime of needing to and understanding of some of the most cunning minds, I have become most adapt at intent...It was rather obvious that the use of 'Dude' was in this case to impart a hidden agenda...For further info...The word ''Dude'' became popular after its use in a old John Wayne movie... By the way...Is the phrase ''Sour Grapes'' been changed to ''Sour Prunes'' (In this tender toes world) so as not to offend Grape lovers...   |
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Post by epatrick on Oct 21, 2014 11:08:29 GMT -5
Dude... don't apologize to that dude. Spirited debate is what this board is all about. While the term "Dude" is rather informal... it is in no way inappropriate; especially when considering the observed format over the past several years. Posters often seem to get "offended" when faced with realities of the their own comments and do not like being "called out" on them. This appears to be a classic case of "Sour Prunes". GTM73.......Being addressed as 'Dude' does not bother or offend me in the least, in fact I was rather surprised and amused...After half a lifetime of needing to and understanding of some of the most cunning minds, I have become most adapt at intent...It was rather obvious that the use of 'Dude' was in this case to impart a hidden agenda...For further info...The word ''Dude'' became popular after its use in a old John Wayne movie... By the way...Is the phrase ''Sour Grapes'' been changed to ''Sour Prunes'' (In this tender toes world) so as not to offend Grape lovers... [/quote] I guess GTM73 missed the fact that there are no longer any prunes. The correct phrase is dried plums. Dried grapes are still raisins. And bad apples still spoil the barrel. |
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Post by GuyF on Oct 21, 2014 11:39:15 GMT -5
Dude... don't apologize to that dude. Spirited debate is what this board is all about. While the term "Dude" is rather informal... it is in no way inappropriate; especially when considering the observed format over the past several years. Posters often seem to get "offended" when faced with realities of the their own comments and do not like being "called out" on them. This appears to be a classic case of "Sour Prunes". GTM73.......Being addressed as 'Dude' does not bother or offend me in the least, in fact I was rather surprised and amused...After half a lifetime of needing to and understanding of some of the most cunning minds, I have become most adapt at intent...It was rather obvious that the use of 'Dude' was in this case to impart a hidden agenda...For further info...The word ''Dude'' became popular after its use in a old John Wayne movie... By the way...Is the phrase ''Sour Grapes'' been changed to ''Sour Prunes'' (In this tender toes world) so as not to offend Grape lovers... [/quote] OT, as always you've piqued our interest, so I decided to do some "dude" research. Here are a couple articles on how the term "dude" has evolved over time. Wikipedia's take: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DudeArticle from the website MentalFloss: mentalfloss.com/article/53317/whats-origin-word-dudeArticle from the website The Atlantic: www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/11/dude-transcends/309528/To summarize, the term "dude" was used to describe city slicker types back when you were a wee lad. It appears to have been repurposed by, for lack of a better term, the "surfer community" as as way to address each other. Nowadays, it is a term used along the lines of "bro" or "pal" or even "guy" in general. I have not seen a description of the term used in a derogatory way, other than one line relating to the city slickers theme; country folk would call them "dudes" in a derogatory fashion. So, as someone who is definitely not "country folk", I can go on record to say that I have never used the term "dude" to mean more than a male friend. :-) |
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Post by GuyF on Oct 21, 2014 11:40:48 GMT -5
Dude... don't apologize to that dude. Spirited debate is what this board is all about. While the term "Dude" is rather informal... it is in no way inappropriate; especially when considering the observed format over the past several years. Posters often seem to get "offended" when faced with realities of the their own comments and do not like being "called out" on them. This appears to be a classic case of "Sour Prunes". GTM73.......Being addressed as 'Dude' does not bother or offend me in the least, in fact I was rather surprised and amused...After half a lifetime of needing to and understanding of some of the most cunning minds, I have become most adapt at intent...It was rather obvious that the use of 'Dude' was in this case to impart a hidden agenda...For further info...The word ''Dude'' became popular after its use in a old John Wayne movie... By the way...Is the phrase ''Sour Grapes'' been changed to ''Sour Prunes'' (In this tender toes world) so as not to offend Grape lovers... I guess GTM73 missed the fact that there are no longer any prunes. The correct phrase is dried plums. Dried grapes are still raisins. And bad apples still spoil the barrel. [/quote] Some of us are just bananas. Most of us like melons. Orange you glad we started this conversation? |
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Post by gtm72 on Oct 21, 2014 12:10:11 GMT -5
Well Said OT. I enjoy your perspective and sensibilities.
I generally dislike explaining myself but "epatrick" appears to have missed my intent and needs some help with subtleties. "Dried prunes" was in fact a dig in which I was commenting on both the age of certain authors within this board and a pun relating to generational folkways. OT picked up on this rather quickly where "epatrick" decided to discuss the current nomenclature of various fruits for some reason... whilst also injecting his own misplaced attempt at humor.
Mike Hockertz~
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Post by oldtimer on Oct 21, 2014 13:08:00 GMT -5
Fellows............For sometime now I have slowly become to realize that a large generation gap has caused a riff in our understanding each other...I try hard to not say things that may be misinterpret, but 'old dogs' have difficulty learning new tricks...In 90 years I have met with at least 3 of such gaps...As the years go on, they become harder to understand and deal with...
As much I understand where I am coming from, I am sure others will say 'What the hell is he talking about'
Be understanding and remember that with good fortune, you to may one day be referred to as a old curmudgeon...
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Post by epatrick on Oct 21, 2014 23:23:21 GMT -5
Well Said OT. I enjoy your perspective and sensibilities. I generally dislike explaining myself but "epatrick" appears to have missed my intent and needs some help with subtleties. "Dried prunes" was in fact a dig in which I was commenting on both the age of certain authors within this board and a pun relating to generational folkways. OT picked up on this rather quickly where "epatrick" decided to discuss the current nomenclature of various fruits for some reason... whilst also injecting his own misplaced attempt at humor. Mike Hockertz~ No fooling! |
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Post by gtm72 on Oct 22, 2014 12:44:51 GMT -5
Yes, apparently there is.
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Post by ichoops on Oct 22, 2014 18:12:16 GMT -5
It must be the third cup of coffee, instead of the usual two, and I need an Iona BB fix. So I'm changing tactics. No one was more upbeat, leaving MTG, than I was yesterday. And that feeling was reenforced, after reading what others had to say. Even on the MAAC Board, the haters had to struggle even to nitpick the Gaels. So now I'm going negative, in trying to figure out my concerns for this season. In no particular order: 1. The way we try to break a full court press, is still having us move up the court, slowly, and have AJ and DL loop cross court passes, which good defensive teams are able to intercept. My hope, is that we use Cedric or Ibn, and have them "speed" dribble through the press. Is this doable? Keep in mind TC is very set in his ways, and it's tough to argue with his success. But when you have a Porsche, or two, don't keep them in the garage. 2. AJ's ball handling. When he "broke out" last year, it was his scoring that caught everyone's attention, and not his decision making or ball handling. Has it improved? Does it need to? 3. DL, for me is the hardest worker on the team. He's involved in every aspect of the game, and will it take a toll as the season goes on? The obvious answer is to give him more pine time. How will his minutes played compare to last year? Maybe we should revisit this, 10 games into the season. 4. I know we spend a lot of time on defense in practice, but the numbers always show us down near the bottom of the League in defensive rankings. I recognize that this is in part because we score quickly, and this gives our opponents many opportunities to score. There is no doubt that we have an offensive mindset, but a little better "D" would be nice. Another "10 games in" item. 5. It's one thing to say that we have great depth, it's another to use that depth. Is it in TC's DNA? A challenging OOC gives us this opportunity. Will we seize the opportunity? 6. Not wanting to appear to be an ICHoops impersonator, I'll close with the thought that these are just my concerns. Are they reasonable? And what did I miss? |
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