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Post by Cjb on Nov 7, 2014 21:01:01 GMT -5
Even if we are in a 1-A Conference, a better facility will be needed to compete with other colleges to attract students, IMO. The question then becomes how much do you invest? A 4000 seat arena can be used for more things than just athletics and can be used to host events for the greater community as well. It seems like its needed either way, if you ask me. But of course so are other things. Bill, if the conduit to playing in the NCAA tournament on a national stage is removed for mid and low-majors, you won't need a facility more than the current HAC - something a ton of college basketball fans would hate to imagine, but don't think for a minute it couldn't. Hell, it wasn't that long ago when the country was watching most sports on television for free.
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Post by tiger on Nov 7, 2014 21:41:19 GMT -5
Agreed. MAAC is perfect for us right now. If things change with endowment, enrollment, etc. might make sense to reassess at that point, but until then it's a moot point. BTW, don't underestimate the A-10. It would be a huge jump from the MAAC. If you ranked the programs right now the A-10 can go blow for blow with the BE: Nova (BE) Gtown (BE) VCU (A10) Dayton (A10) GW (A10) Xavier (BE) UMass (A10) Butler (BE) SJU (BE) Marquette (BE) Everybody else...
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Post by tiger on Nov 7, 2014 21:42:34 GMT -5
Providence is never part of "everybody else "in big east history.....they are also defending big east champs
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Post by ic1983 on Nov 7, 2014 21:56:24 GMT -5
The reconstituted Big East has far more upside than the present A10. It's not even close.
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Post by ic59 on Nov 8, 2014 6:57:15 GMT -5
Let's face it the "present" BE is big in name only. The A10 is a level below them. Who knows what tomorrow will bring. And I think that Tiger's reminder said it all. Providence is the reigning champ. Who knew? WHO CARES?
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Post by iona05 on Nov 8, 2014 7:23:23 GMT -5
If you look at predictions for this season the A10 is every bit as good as the BE. The BE might have the two best overall teams of the two conferences but the A10 is deeper.
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Post by ic59 on Nov 8, 2014 7:32:13 GMT -5
Iona05, I follow college bb, but I'd have trouble naming ALL the BE and A10 teams. I do know that some A10 teams have left the A10 for the BE, but don't know if they left already or will be leaving this year or next. The BE tourney used to be BIG in NYC every March, but I have a friend who is a ticket broker and he tells me that the ACC in NY is a MUCH HOTTER ticket. And it's not even close.
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Post by hawaii bill on Nov 8, 2014 7:38:34 GMT -5
The BE is a league with similar institutions. The A-10 is a coalition of different types of institutions much like the BE was before it split.
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Post by ic1983 on Nov 8, 2014 11:19:27 GMT -5
The BE is a league with similar institutions. The A-10 is a coalition of different types of institutions much like the BE was before it split. One of several reasons why the BE has far more upside than does the A10. The BE brand is much more recognizable, and valuable.
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Post by tiger on Nov 8, 2014 23:12:22 GMT -5
Big east is alive and well ......recruiting is as strong as ever.....no worries
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Post by ic59 on Nov 9, 2014 7:17:04 GMT -5
tiger, what you say is true. To a point. But it's not the old BE, it's just not. That doesn't mean that it's not a good BB league, but just not one of the big boys. And to say no worries that is true also unless the football schools tell you to start worrying. Football is king.
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Post by tiger on Nov 9, 2014 12:59:22 GMT -5
Fair enough
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Post by sharkey on Nov 9, 2014 13:08:03 GMT -5
tiger, what you say is true. To a point. But it's not the old BE, it's just not. That doesn't mean that it's not a good BB league, but just not one of the big boys. And to say no worries that is true also unless the football schools tell you to start worrying. Football is king. Funny but was thinking same thing last night how football is king. Watching the Alabama-LSU game last night and they showed a sideline shot of the Alabama bench and crowd. Don't know how many kids are allowed per team, but between those that were in uniform and not, there had to be 80 kids there. And probably another 40 coaches and support staff, plus a huge band in the stands, all in front of a huge crowd. I cant imagine the cost to Alabama to fund that program and then the cost to allow that many people to travel to away games. cash is king and that is what BCS college football is all about. I just pray the greed doesn't destroy the mid major life the way we know it
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Post by hawaii bill on Nov 9, 2014 13:40:07 GMT -5
On one hand it's hard to blame them. They've spent their whole existence in a backwater and everyone reminds them it's a backwater and the only thing that makes them relevant on a national stage is college football. I thnk it's as much about ego and a lack of prestige in other areas as it is money. The money is big too.
If we buy into it and watch Alabama et al play football and if big time football brings about he demise of mid major hoops we've got no one to blame but ourselves IMO.
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Post by dansimms on Nov 21, 2014 18:22:36 GMT -5
I see that Stony Brook listed their attendance at their arena opener as 4,009. That is a nice size. I assume that is close to the capacity. They came back to win by 1 over Columbia.
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