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Post by hawaii bill on Dec 14, 2014 12:08:59 GMT -5
So here we have a player who was arrested for assault. As I said in another thread this needs to be handled with integrity and transparency. If it means losing a player for a significant amount of time, so be it. I don't care how good he is or how much he contributes. Players must be held accountable. Any donations I intend to make will hinge on how things like this are handled. I don't care if other programs sweep this stuff under the rug or airbrush out players from team photos. We need to be better than that.
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Post by GuyF on Dec 14, 2014 12:33:43 GMT -5
Agree. Siena's Poole punched another student and there was no discipline whatsoever. As we are a superior institution I expect us to handle accordingly.
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Post by IONA86 on Dec 14, 2014 12:54:03 GMT -5
Lets see how this pans out. Considering the zero tolerance police have regarding assaults these days, the charges do not indicate that any crime was actually perpetrated. If I accused Guy of assaulting me and the police had even the slightest opinion that something might have happened, Guy would be arrested. It does not mean that Guy actually assaulted me. Lets see where this goes before we are talking about this tarnishing the schools image or demanding harsh punishments from the Admin. The kid is innocent until proven guilty.
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Post by tau on Dec 14, 2014 12:59:53 GMT -5
Wasn't this already handled?
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Post by Cjb on Dec 14, 2014 13:23:32 GMT -5
Wasn't this already handled? I thought so. A scuffle between two student-athletes, off-campus no less. Did the circumstances (whatever they were) warrant the other student-athlete to be disciplined as well? How far is a school expected to go?
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Post by ichoops on Dec 14, 2014 13:34:18 GMT -5
Closed issue I thought unless there is retribution against either student
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Post by Cjb on Dec 14, 2014 13:37:06 GMT -5
Agree. Siena's Poole punched another student and there was no discipline whatsoever. As we are a superior institution I expect us to handle accordingly. Guy, you're wrong about Poole. Siena took the following iron fist approach...
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Post by gregcrow on Dec 14, 2014 14:08:36 GMT -5
Lets see how this pans out. Considering the zero tolerance police have regarding assaults these days, the charges do not indicate that any crime was actually perpetrated. If I accused Guy of assaulting me and the police had even the slightest opinion that something might have happened, Guy would be arrested. It does not mean that Guy actually assaulted me. Lets see where this goes before we are talking about this tarnishing the schools image or demanding harsh punishments from the Admin. The kid is innocent until proven guilty. I've heard those rumors about Guy also.
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Post by hawaii bill on Dec 14, 2014 14:37:44 GMT -5
Agree. Siena's Poole punched another student and there was no discipline whatsoever. As we are a superior institution I expect us to handle accordingly. Siena has plenty of its own problems. And as we all know people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. We have to focus on our own house and keep it in order.
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Post by husker76 on Dec 14, 2014 14:46:37 GMT -5
We are all guessing about the incident and what happened. Note that assault does not mean punch or blow was thrown/landed. That typically results in a battery charge. Assault could verbal or intimidation. Let the court deal with incident and I hope David gets good representation. The unfortunate aspect is that court moves at snail's pace. This will not be finished in court within months or by season end. Tough spot for Iona and David.
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Post by Joebird on Dec 14, 2014 14:49:02 GMT -5
This thread's name sounds like a scene from Pulp Fiction!
If every roommate was arrested for fighting with his roommate there would be a lot of guys with rap sheets. Imagine if you got arrested for every fight with your brother, every single guy with a brother would have a rap sheet. Don't know the full story but unless Laury did something out of the ordinary, which it doesn't sound like he did, there isn't much here to talk about.
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Post by oldtimer on Dec 14, 2014 14:54:39 GMT -5
Lets see how this pans out. Considering the zero tolerance police have regarding assaults these days, the charges do not indicate that any crime was actually perpetrated. If I accused Guy of assaulting me and the police had even the slightest opinion that something might have happened, Guy would be arrested. It does not mean that Guy actually assaulted me. Lets see where this goes before we are talking about this tarnishing the schools image or demanding harsh punishments from the Admin. The kid is innocent until proven guilty. [/quote] Absolutely a warped knowledge of the Police, the law and misinformed assumptions...With no weapon or visible injuries the police will not make a arrest... The complainant would be advised if he still wanted to press charges in the A.M. to do so the next morning in City Court...There would be very few Police cars on the road if they would spend time making such a frivolous arrest.....In 95% of the time the complainant would wake up in the am with a clear head and fail to make the charge....In this case I am very curious if complainant even followed up on charges or will ever appear...... If I had a wish, it would be that all that receive a moving violation ticket should be required to double up with a Police Officer for one weekend of various calls....They would soon relieve their resentment and anger over the well deserved summons...
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Post by hawaii bill on Dec 14, 2014 15:18:52 GMT -5
This thread's name sounds like a scene from Pulp Fiction! If every roommate was arrested for fighting with his roommate there would be a lot of guys with rap sheets. Imagine if you got arrested for every fight with your brother, every single guy with a brother would have a rap sheet. Don't know the full story but unless Laury did something out of the ordinary, which it doesn't sound like he did, there isn't much here to talk about. What title would you prefer I use? Larry Incident? Laury Arrest? I honestly don't understand the point of your post. Is it that this is just a simple fist fight between roommates and didn't warrant an arrest? The fact is that Dave was arrested. Or did someone make that up? We really don't know the details. The point of my post is that I don't take this lightly and want to make sure that it is handled appropriately. If you have information you'd like to share as to what actually happened it would be welcome.
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Post by Joebird on Dec 14, 2014 15:22:26 GMT -5
Laury incident sounds like a Seinfeld episode, my point is this probably is no big deal.
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Post by widespreadpanic on Dec 14, 2014 15:31:37 GMT -5
OT, maybe you and your friends can give Laury the "Valvano treatment" and just make it go away.
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