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Post by java on Mar 10, 2016 15:57:25 GMT -5
Now that pain has subsided from the final few weeks of the season, thought it made sense to revisit this thread. No question 14-15 team is not in the same conversation as the at large or 97-98 team. But still was an excellent team and ranks among Iona's 10 best seasons ever. As for the Cluess era would rank the teams as follows: 11-12 12-13 14-15 10-11 13-14 For the record I think 15-16 will be better than them all. :-) And as for Iona all time seasons probably looks like this: 79-80 78-79 83-84 97-98 84-85 11-12 00-01 82-83 05-06 14-15 Nice job 05! While the body of work is far from over for the 15/16 squad, I would wedge this team in between the 11/12 and 12/13 teams. If they can somehow make the Sweet 16, the team will be in the discussion with the 98 squad.
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Post by tau on Mar 10, 2016 19:49:25 GMT -5
Now that pain has subsided from the final few weeks of the season, thought it made sense to revisit this thread. No question 14-15 team is not in the same conversation as the at large or 97-98 team. But still was an excellent team and ranks among Iona's 10 best seasons ever. As for the Cluess era would rank the teams as follows: 11-12 12-13 14-15 10-11 13-14 For the record I think 15-16 will be better than them all. :-) And as for Iona all time seasons probably looks like this: 79-80 78-79 83-84 97-98 84-85 11-12 00-01 82-83 05-06 14-15 Nice job 05! While the body of work is far from over for the 15/16 squad, I would wedge this team in between the 11/12 and 12/13 teams. If they can somehow make the Sweet 16, the team will be in the discussion with the 98 squad. If this team gets to the sweet 16, they will be the best team of all time.
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Post by iona05 on Dec 16, 2016 20:15:34 GMT -5
16-17 Team: Thru 10 Games: 7-3 Best Win in First 10 Games: Nevada Final Reg Season Record: ? Conf Record: ? Away Record: ? Best OOC Wins: Nevada, Ohio, ? Peak RPI: ? Peak Winning Streak: ? Conf Tourney Outcome: ? NCAA Seeding: ? Postseason Outcome: ?
97-98 Team: Thru 10 Games: 7-3 Best Win in First 10 Games: Rutgers Final Reg Season Record: 23-5 Conf Record: 15-3 Away Record: 11-3 Best OOC Wins: Rutgers, Providence, Hofstra, Wagner Peak RPI: 34 Peak Winning Streak: 15 Conf Tourney Outcome: Champions NCAA Seeding: 12 Postseason Outcome: Lost heartbreaker to Syracuse on buzzer beater, 63-61
11-12 Team: Thru 10 Games: 8-2 Best Win in First 10 Games: St Joe's Final Reg Season Record: 24-6 Conf Record: 15-3 Away Record: 11-4 Best OOC Wins: Maryland, St. Joseph's, Denver, Nevada Peak RPI: 39 Peak Winning Streak: 7 Conf Tourney Outcome: Lost in Semifinals NCAA Seeding: 14 Postseason Outcome: Lost to BYU in opening round, 78-72.
14-15 Team: Thru 10 Games: 6-4 Best Win in First 10 Games: Cleveland State Final Reg Season Record: 22-6 Conf Record: 15-2 Away Record: 10-6 Best OOC Wins: Wake Forest, FGCU, Indiana State, Cleveland State Peak RPI: 41 Peak Winning Streak: 9 (Active) Conf Tourney Outcome: Lost in finals to Manhattan Postseason Outcome: Lost in NIT to URI
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Post by chelseadal on Dec 17, 2016 9:36:02 GMT -5
Excellent Work. Can you add Worst loss in 1st 10 games? :-)
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Post by ic59 on Dec 17, 2016 9:53:22 GMT -5
05, just a fantastic job. I was at Kentucky for the NCAA loss to Syracuse, and totally remember the game, which I believe was Tim Walsh's last game as the Iona coach. But I have to admit that I don't remember even playing the four teams, much less beating them (four best wins). Talk about losing it.
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Post by iona05 on Jan 30, 2022 19:03:07 GMT -5
Team is off to tie for the best start in program history at 18-3. It will be very difficult to do, but if they somehow run the table and win a game in the Dance where would they rank all time? In that scenario I think they should be in the conversation for the greatest single season in the history of Iona.
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Post by Super on Jan 30, 2022 19:18:42 GMT -5
Team is off to tie for the best start in program history at 18-3. It will be very difficult to do, but if they somehow run the table and win a game in the Dance where would they rank all time? In that scenario I think they should be in the conversation for the greatest single season in the history of Iona. Second to 79-80– IF your scenario plays out.
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Post by iona05 on Jan 30, 2022 19:25:22 GMT -5
Team is off to tie for the best start in program history at 18-3. It will be very difficult to do, but if they somehow run the table and win a game in the Dance where would they rank all time? In that scenario I think they should be in the conversation for the greatest single season in the history of Iona. Second to 79-80– IF your scenario plays out. Let’s all hope we are so lucky as to debate this at the end of the season. ;-)
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Post by Super on Jan 30, 2022 19:40:21 GMT -5
Second to 79-80– IF your scenario plays out. Let’s all hope we are so lucky as to debate this at the end of the season. ;-) Need 2 NCAA wins. 11/30 vs. Texas A&M (N25) W 78 62 12/1 vs. Long Beach St. (N25) W 85 7512/2 vs. Kentucky (N25) L 50 57 12/8 at St. Mary’s (Ca.) W 79 7312/11 at San Francisco L 66 78 12/15 Fair. Dickinson W 75 58 12/23 Belmont Abbey W 54 48 12/28 Air Force (N22) W 64 51 12/29 St. Bona. (N22) W 75 67 1/3 Wichita State W 84 701/5 at Georgetown L 84 95 1/7 Baltimore W 68 51 1/12 at Ala.-Birmingham W 70 651/17 McNeese State W 76 66 1/19 at Niagara W 88 74 1/21 at Pittsburgh L 63 75 1/23 Colgate W 54 49 1/26 at Holy Cross W 82 67 1/30 at Wagner W 77 73 2/2 at Fordham W 65 59 2/4 Saint Peter’s W 65 62 2/7 vs. Kansas (N3) W 81 772/9 Army W 67 54 2/11 St. Francis (NY) W 72 62 2/14 at Manhattan W 70 57 2/16 at Long Island W 85 72 2/18 Siena W 84 72 2/21 vs. Louisville (N3) W 77 602/23 at Fairfield W 74 53 2/26 Fair. Dickinson (N26) W 69 53 2/28 vs. Siena (N27) W 76 70 3/1 vs. Saint Peter’s (N27) W 64 46 3/6 vs. Holy Cross (N28) W 84 783/9 vs. Georgetown (N28) L 71 74
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Post by iona05 on Jan 30, 2022 19:53:16 GMT -5
Let’s all hope we are so lucky as to debate this at the end of the season. ;-) Need 2 NCAA wins. 11/30 vs. Texas A&M (N25) W 78 62 12/1 vs. Long Beach St. (N25) W 85 7512/2 vs. Kentucky (N25) L 50 57 12/8 at St. Mary’s (Ca.) W 79 7312/11 at San Francisco L 66 78 12/15 Fair. Dickinson W 75 58 12/23 Belmont Abbey W 54 48 12/28 Air Force (N22) W 64 51 12/29 St. Bona. (N22) W 75 67 1/3 Wichita State W 84 701/5 at Georgetown L 84 95 1/7 Baltimore W 68 51 1/12 at Ala.-Birmingham W 70 651/17 McNeese State W 76 66 1/19 at Niagara W 88 74 1/21 at Pittsburgh L 63 75 1/23 Colgate W 54 49 1/26 at Holy Cross W 82 67 1/30 at Wagner W 77 73 2/2 at Fordham W 65 59 2/4 Saint Peter’s W 65 62 2/7 vs. Kansas (N3) W 81 772/9 Army W 67 54 2/11 St. Francis (NY) W 72 62 2/14 at Manhattan W 70 57 2/16 at Long Island W 85 72 2/18 Siena W 84 72 2/21 vs. Louisville (N3) W 77 602/23 at Fairfield W 74 53 2/26 Fair. Dickinson (N26) W 69 53 2/28 vs. Siena (N27) W 76 70 3/1 vs. Saint Peter’s (N27) W 64 46 3/6 vs. Holy Cross (N28) W 84 783/9 vs. Georgetown (N28) L 71 74 I don’t want to look like I am picking on that team, because that would be insane. But I believe the body of work of this year’s team would put it in the same conversation as that team if they run table and win in the tournament. Also remember that was before the MAAC so it was much easier to schedule and get shots at beating quality teams. Good luck getting Wichita State to come into the HAC nowadays or to get Kansas and Louisville to schedule “road” games at MSG.
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Post by Super on Jan 30, 2022 20:06:43 GMT -5
Need 2 NCAA wins. 11/30 vs. Texas A&M (N25) W 78 62 12/1 vs. Long Beach St. (N25) W 85 7512/2 vs. Kentucky (N25) L 50 57 12/8 at St. Mary’s (Ca.) W 79 7312/11 at San Francisco L 66 78 12/15 Fair. Dickinson W 75 58 12/23 Belmont Abbey W 54 48 12/28 Air Force (N22) W 64 51 12/29 St. Bona. (N22) W 75 67 1/3 Wichita State W 84 701/5 at Georgetown L 84 95 1/7 Baltimore W 68 51 1/12 at Ala.-Birmingham W 70 651/17 McNeese State W 76 66 1/19 at Niagara W 88 74 1/21 at Pittsburgh L 63 75 1/23 Colgate W 54 49 1/26 at Holy Cross W 82 67 1/30 at Wagner W 77 73 2/2 at Fordham W 65 59 2/4 Saint Peter’s W 65 62 2/7 vs. Kansas (N3) W 81 772/9 Army W 67 54 2/11 St. Francis (NY) W 72 62 2/14 at Manhattan W 70 57 2/16 at Long Island W 85 72 2/18 Siena W 84 72 2/21 vs. Louisville (N3) W 77 602/23 at Fairfield W 74 53 2/26 Fair. Dickinson (N26) W 69 53 2/28 vs. Siena (N27) W 76 70 3/1 vs. Saint Peter’s (N27) W 64 46 3/6 vs. Holy Cross (N28) W 84 783/9 vs. Georgetown (N28) L 71 74 I don’t want to look like I am picking on that team, because that would be insane. But I believe the body of work of this year’s team would put it in the same conversation as that team if they run table and win in the tournament. Also remember that was before the MAAC so it was much easier to schedule and get shots at beating quality teams. Good luck getting Wichita State to come into the HAC nowadays or to get Kansas and Louisville to schedule “road” games at MSG. You never saw the teams we beat including the national champion; loss to Kentucky with Ralp Sampson nor loss to Georgetown hardly qualifies as equivalent to a silly loss to Belmont or St Louis. You are correct about ability to schedule, but that was not your premise. We played a daunting schedule-- a lot more difficult than this year's. Win 2 NCAA games and we can talk.
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Post by Joebird on Jan 30, 2022 20:12:28 GMT -5
I don’t want to look like I am picking on that team, because that would be insane. But I believe the body of work of this year’s team would put it in the same conversation as that team if they run table and win in the tournament. Also remember that was before the MAAC so it was much easier to schedule and get shots at beating quality teams. Good luck getting Wichita State to come into the HAC nowadays or to get Kansas and Louisville to schedule “road” games at MSG. You never saw the teams we beat including the national champion; loss to Kentucky with Ralp Sampson nor loss to Georgetown hardly qualifies as equivalent to a silly loss to Belmont or St Louis. You are correct about ability to schedule, but that was not your premise. We played a daunting schedule-- a lot more difficult than this year's. Win 2 NCAA games and we can talk. Agree need 2 ncaa wins. 80 blew out the #2 team in the country and eventual national champs in late February.
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Post by iona05 on Jan 30, 2022 20:16:28 GMT -5
You never saw the teams we beat including the national champion; loss to Kentucky with Ralp Sampson nor loss to Georgetown hardly qualifies as equivalent to a silly loss to Belmont or St Louis. You are correct about ability to schedule, but that was not your premise. We played a daunting schedule-- a lot more difficult than this year's. Win 2 NCAA games and we can talk. Agree need 2 ncaa wins. 80 blew out the #2 team in the country and eventual national champs in late February. Well I guess the bar is raised then. Let’s win 2!
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Post by Super on Jan 30, 2022 20:18:47 GMT -5
Agree need 2 ncaa wins. 80 blew out the #2 team in the country and eventual national champs in late February. Well I guess the bar is raised then. Let’s win 2! Now you're talking!
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Post by Super on Jan 30, 2022 20:25:27 GMT -5
Craziest schedule by Valvano: Play in Great Alaska Shootout; return home and fly back out to San Francisco: Alaska 11/30 vs. Texas A&M (N25) W 78 62 12/1 vs. Long Beach St. (N25) W 85 75 12/2 vs. Kentucky (N25) L 50 57
12/8 at St. Mary’s (Ca.) W 79 73 12/11 at San Francisco L 66 78
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