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Post by IONA86 on Apr 22, 2015 9:03:11 GMT -5
Sir'Dominic Pointer of St. John's won the Haggerty Award Co-Coach of the year - Glenn Braica, St. Francis & Jim Engles, NJIT C0-ROY went to Eric Paschall, Fordham & Angel Delgado, Seton Hall
All-Met: First Team: D'Angelo Harrison, St. John's David Laury, Iona A.J. English, Iona Jalen Cannon, St. Francis Jameel Warney, Stony Brook.
Second Team: Emmy Andujar, Manhattan Sterling Gibbs, Seton Hall Juan'ya Green, Hofstra Maodo Lo, Columbia Myles Mack, Rutgers Damon Lynn, NJIT.
Third Team: Chavaughn Lewis, Marist Ashton Pankey, Manhattan Brent Jones, St. Francis Marcus Burton, Wagner Phil Greene IV, St. John's Kadeem Jack, Rutgers.
Casimir got ripped off: Delgado - 9.3 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 0.9 apg, 1.3 To's and 1.4 bpg, .555 fg%, .000 3p% and .414 ft%. Paschall - 15.9ppg, 5.5 rpg, 1.0 apg , 2.8 TO's 21 steals and .419 fg% , .315 3p% and 79.4 ft% Casimir - 14.5ppg, 2.8 rpg, 2.0 apg, 1.2 TO's 39 steals and .427 fg%, .423 3p% and .895 ft%
Delgado did a good job rebounding but Casimir and Paschall should have won ROY IMHO
You cold also make a case for Andujar being first team but I think his TO's hurt his stats compared to Warney and Cannon.
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Post by ic1983 on Apr 22, 2015 9:13:53 GMT -5
Casimir's performance may actually be considered more impressive than Paschall's in some ways, when you consider their respective roles and the disparity between the two programs. Casimir integrated seamlessly into a highly skilled team with several well established high quality players. Paschall is a high quality talent, but his numbers popped more because he was one of only 2 focus players (both freshman) on a much weaker team. That accounts for Paschall having a slightly higher scoring average, but puts Camimir's overall performance in better perspective.
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Post by IONA86 on Apr 22, 2015 9:16:08 GMT -5
Casimir's performance may actually be considered more impressive than Paschall's in some ways, when you consider their respective roles and the disparity between the two programs. Casimir integrated seamlessly into a highly skilled team with several well established high quality players. Paschall is a high quality talent, but his numbers popped more because he was one of only 2 focus players (both freshman) on a much weaker team. That accounts for Paschall having a slightly higher scoring average, but puts Camimir's overall performance in better perspective. I agree...
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Post by husker76 on Apr 22, 2015 9:19:04 GMT -5
Pointer deserved the Haggerty Award as he really played his heart out on both ends of the court. Congratulations to David and AJ. Not many surprises with the exception being Casimir not named ROY. Schadrac Casimir in my opinion got the shaft. If he was relied upon as Paschal was at Fordham his numbers/stats would have been higher. I look at his 3 point shooting numbers- 94 made 3's at 0.423% and his TO's of just 1.2 TO/game playing over 34 minutes/game as a freshman being very impressive. The good news is that this has placed another chip on his shoulder to motivate him. Glad Chavaughn Lewis was recognized as he stayed through all the turmoil at Marist with the revolving Head Coaches.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 10:22:00 GMT -5
The Haggerty committee always awards upper classmen and that's why the Freshman got so many snubs. Maybe they should have an all rookie team instead of just the ROY award. Delgado impressed me as much as anybody. I'm glad they split the award between him and Paschall, and I love Paschall. Delgado looked like he had velcro on his hands when he was rebounding. Really impressed me. He grabs everything, and his post up game is coming along, and he can shoot it a little. Delgado was ROY in the Big East Conference. The NBA scouts are certainly aware of this guy.
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Post by tiger on Apr 22, 2015 10:24:46 GMT -5
Delgado almost a double double in the big east.....very rare for a freshmen...I'm ok with it...
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Post by hawaii bill on Apr 22, 2015 10:26:50 GMT -5
Can easily make a case for Sed, but hard to complain him losing out the the BE ROY and A-10 ROY.
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Post by tau on Apr 22, 2015 10:28:43 GMT -5
Fighting with Braziller over this on Twitter
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 10:38:39 GMT -5
Misread the post above. I love Casimer too but those guys have to get an edge. Would also need to see the tempo neutral stats on these guys.
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Post by tau on Apr 22, 2015 10:43:36 GMT -5
Misread the post above. I love Casimer too but those guys have to get an edge. Would also need to see the tempo neutral stats on these guys. Why do they get an edge?
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Post by chelseadal on Apr 22, 2015 11:01:59 GMT -5
Casimir's performance may actually be considered more impressive than Paschall's in some ways, when you consider their respective roles and the disparity between the two programs. Casimir integrated seamlessly into a highly skilled team with several well established high quality players. Paschall is a high quality talent, but his numbers popped more because he was one of only 2 focus players (both freshman) on a much weaker team. That accounts for Paschall having a slightly higher scoring average, but puts Camimir's overall performance in better perspective. You could also argue the other way. Cas teammates were much better and got him many open looks. Paschall had to create shots for himself. Close call.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 11:02:13 GMT -5
Misread the post above. I love Casimer too but those guys have to get an edge. Would also need to see the tempo neutral stats on these guys. Why do they get an edge? I love Sed and I have even said that in past posts, even questioning why McGill would be considered a Casimer upgrade. The Haggerty award only considers level of conference play as a tiebreaker which I think is proper. I think Delgado and Paschall can at least be considered "tied" with Sed. Also, there is the issue of tempo neutral stats which we don't have in front of us. Maybe someone could research that (Maybe 86, pleeeze), as it would make for an interesting analysis. Good thread so far. One thing about Paschall is his high turnover average. The tempo free stats would hurt him even more, so it would be interesting to compare all their numbers.
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Post by ghostofwillard on Apr 22, 2015 11:03:43 GMT -5
Can easily make a case for Sed, but hard to complain him losing out the the BE ROY and A-10 ROY. Agree
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Post by St. Louis Gael on Apr 22, 2015 11:09:38 GMT -5
Misread the post above. I love Casimer too but those guys have to get an edge. Would also need to see the tempo neutral stats on these guys. Why do they get an edge? Because reksonn likes to support the BE
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Post by tau on Apr 22, 2015 11:14:35 GMT -5
If conference is a factor, why are Warney and Cannon 1st teamers? NEC and America East sucked too. I guess all the 1st team should just consist of SJU and Seton Hall players?
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