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Post by ic59 on May 18, 2015 5:24:11 GMT -5
epatrick, Cluess only does that when he's coaching in the MAAC finals.
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Post by thehat on May 18, 2015 19:26:01 GMT -5
Host St Francis=win. @ Kansas = loss Lose at Kansas = RPI goes up and Iona gets paid. Win at home vs SFNY = RPI goes down and nobody goes to game anyway. Cluess agrees with me, BTW.
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Post by thehat on May 18, 2015 19:35:29 GMT -5
I have no doubt TC agrees with you, but I would go to a st. Francis game and the general admission side of the gym usually has a pulse. The reason why I don't like playing those big road games is that the other school NEVER comes to new Ro. I'm not concerned with rpi because we will never get an at large without bracket busters. Even with good records and good rpi we still get road nit games. As far as MSG games, I was at the last two, when we followed St. John's/Fordham there was a good vibe and crowd at Iona/Rutgers . Iona/niagra following coach k's 1000 win was a funeral.
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Post by oldtimer on May 21, 2015 10:29:33 GMT -5
Early morning thoughts....A realistic view...
We seldom see packed houses at Hynes...I would estimate the overall attendance would be somewhere in the 2,500 figure...With our present fan base, and lack of press, it will never reach much higher...In my 70 years of watching Iona basketball it has remained the same...There are without doubt sport fans in the near vicinity that do not know that within a few miles exist a very good college basketball program...
About 30-35 years ago Metro Area basketball under the direction of a few basketball warlords started its demise...Right now, there is no Metro area team rated near the top 25...What was once greatest region for college basketball has fallen to rock bottom...Its fans are thirsty for its return to prominence...
There is room for Iona to satisfy that role, but somehow we must find a way into the hearts and minds of New York City sport fans...Unless some way can be found to increase our fan base and Metro area sport press, we will remain that tough team to beat located somewhere just outside New York City...
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Post by Cjb on May 21, 2015 12:54:45 GMT -5
Right now, there is no Metro area team rated near the top 25...What was once greatest region for college basketball has fallen to rock bottom...Its fans are thirsty for its return to prominence... OT, as much as it pains me to say it, I'm not so sure the "thirst" is what you think it is. NY is a pro sports town and that (competition) I believe is the greatest hurdle for all metro area college teams.
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Post by ic59 on May 21, 2015 14:00:38 GMT -5
Cjb, it pains me to agree with you.
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Post by gregcrow on May 21, 2015 14:08:43 GMT -5
Cjb, it pains me to agree with you. This is true. The only thing that changes it would be a significant run in the NCAA tourney (Sweet 16 or beyond). And even that would be temporary.
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Post by oldtimer on May 22, 2015 9:42:31 GMT -5
CJB......You are probably to young to remember when college basketball reigned in NYC...It started in 1946 and lasted until the early 1960's...The garden and other local team arenas were always filled...At times you had to arrive an hour or two early to be sure you got in... St John's, CCNY, NYU, Fordham, and Manhattan were the big attractions...During that time PRO Basketball was secondary.......... Around the early 1960's local coaches took control, and when lesser local colleges started to upset them with regularity, barons from these ranks decided that it was not in their best interest to play each other...Thus started the demise of Metro basketball, and the Pro game filled the gap... Age has ridden NYC of this type control, and it is my hope and view that there is room for Pro and College Basketball to thrive, and once again become the Mecca for hoops it once was...
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Post by GuyF on May 22, 2015 9:58:10 GMT -5
It's a nice dream, OT, but I don't think we'll ever see it.
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Post by oldtimer on May 22, 2015 10:34:31 GMT -5
CJB...I somehow neglected to add a post script to my last message...Its been about 4-5 years since those trips you so graciously took me to and were interrupted by my stroke... Belated thanks...'The days go slow, but the years go fast'..... My residence is now the Sunrise Senior living Center, located on Columbus Ave near California Rd...Mt. Vernon...I remember you lived in the area...If you are ever in the mood to talk a little basketball, stop by...Apt 232..........
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Post by oldtimer on May 22, 2015 11:42:07 GMT -5
It's a nice dream, OT, but I don't think we'll ever see it. GUY........At Sunrise home for seniors, you do a lot of dreaming....Thanks to this forum which helps me keep my mind at least young..... As to the mind.....Only the Good Lord could have put it together...Very Strange...In my very early youth when my grand parents were still alive, I understood and spoke fairly fluent Italian...As the years went by that gift was forgotten....Since I have recovered mentally from the stroke, that ability has returned with a bang from somewhere in the deep region of the mind...A ability far out of the reach of evolution...I sometimes question, but I am a believer...
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Post by epatrick on May 22, 2015 11:57:11 GMT -5
Dreams and a can-do attitude will not hurt and may produce some beautiful rewards.
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Post by Cjb on May 22, 2015 19:19:22 GMT -5
CJB......You are probably to young to remember when college basketball reigned in NYC...It started in 1946 and lasted until the early 1960's...The garden and other local team arenas were always filled...At times you had to arrive an hour or two early to be sure you got in... St John's, CCNY, NYU, Fordham, and Manhattan were the big attractions...During that time PRO Basketball was secondary...... You're right. Those golden days with NYU and CCNY were a little before my time. I do remember the NIT being bigger than the NCAA tourney and Don May of Dayton winning the NIT... he went on to play for the Knicks. I have to agree with what Greg says, the only thing that would get excitement back to the masses in this area would be for someone to have a significant run in the NCAA tourney and even that would be one of those 15 minutes of fame moments (a la 1989 Seton Hall).
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