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Post by Joebird on Jan 26, 2015 19:46:25 GMT -5
Despite the success the past 5 years it has really fell off the cliff. Yesterday's game at MSG wasn't mentioned anywhere. The drop off in coverage has coincided with Sean Brennan leaving the daily news and the Maac tourney not being on MSG. You no Longer ever get a score on the 11 pm news. Tough to put a finger on exactly why but it is obvious that the ny media will no longer give any time of day to Iona and the Maac, even with all the success the past 5 years. Heck Ruland's winless team was a top story when they won their first game, but now you see nothing in the major ny media. Some may say why care, but I think this has had a direct effect on low attendance in non big games. It doesn't help that few read the journal news any more, the general sports population has no idea how iona is doing. Not sure how to fix it but for the true avid iona fan you can get more than your fix from twitter, as posters like daily dose of hoops and others do a fantastic job of covering iona, but this won't help the general sports fan get interested in iona, it's a problem that is tough to fix unless the Gaels can go ahead and win an ncaa game or two.
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Post by tiger on Jan 26, 2015 20:18:23 GMT -5
We need to win an NCAA game or two.....otherwise we are just a Big fish in a small pond
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Post by tau on Jan 26, 2015 20:44:00 GMT -5
I heard our score on 1010 wins
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Post by GuyF on Jan 26, 2015 20:54:17 GMT -5
Agree with notions above. Win an NCAA game or two, and watch the media jump.
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Post by ic59 on Jan 26, 2015 22:22:57 GMT -5
I don't think our problem is the NCAA's. I think our problem is that we play a college game in a pro town/area. The media covers the biggest conference (BE), but even the BE doesn't get much coverage. Siena playing in TimButTo (Sp?) draws about the same as SJU, playing in NYC.
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Post by Cjb on Jan 27, 2015 9:40:17 GMT -5
All the limelight on Sunday going to the SJ/Coach 1K game can't be a surprise.
Playing in a doubleheader like that what do you expect?
Hell, we could've been Louisville playing Kentucky and still would've gotten second class citizen treatment.
You want more press and a bigger turnout by Iona fans at MSG? Play a BCS team there - not a MAAC home game.
Glad I saved my money.
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Post by iona05 on Jan 27, 2015 10:18:01 GMT -5
Agreed. Let's not forget that both SJU and SHU were Top 25 teams just a few weeks ago (whether or not those rankings were warranted is another conversation). If we had a national ranking next to our name we would be media darlings as well. Keep winning and the media will find us.
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Post by Joebird on Jan 27, 2015 10:49:11 GMT -5
My point is they use to tell our scores on the 11pm news sometimes, now they never do (yes radio still does) and they did this when we were average.
Also daily news never has our games, and post rarely, this has more to do with cuts by the newspapers then anything else.
Can't explain why a Manhattan iona Maac final is pretty much ignored by the ny media when our championships 10+ years ago were covered.
Seems to me there has been a change in local media coverage, this has always been a pro town but we use to get a nugget here and there even when we weren't that good and now never.
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Post by iona05 on Jan 27, 2015 10:57:18 GMT -5
No explanation for lack of coverage for Iona-Manhattan final either. That is a bit puzzling. Remember I was surprised last year. Although WFAN and Francesa and co. do give us a fair amount of coverage when we're deserving of it.
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Post by St. Louis Gael on Jan 27, 2015 11:01:13 GMT -5
My point is they use to tell our scores on the 11pm news sometimes, now they never do (yes radio still does) and they did this when we were average. Also daily news never has our games, and post rarely, this has more to do with cuts by the newspapers then anything else. Can't explain why a Manhattan iona Maac final is pretty much ignored by the ny media when our championships 10+ years ago were covered. Seems to me there has been a change in local media coverage, this has always been a pro town but we use to get a nugget here and there even when we weren't that good and now never. You are asking why a dying beast is not feeding on Iona. They do not serve food in the ICU - drugs only to dull the pain.
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Post by hawaii bill on Jan 27, 2015 11:14:08 GMT -5
My point is they use to tell our scores on the 11pm news sometimes, now they never do (yes radio still does) and they did this when we were average. Also daily news never has our games, and post rarely, this has more to do with cuts by the newspapers then anything else. Can't explain why a Manhattan iona Maac final is pretty much ignored by the ny media when our championships 10+ years ago were covered. Seems to me there has been a change in local media coverage, this has always been a pro town but we use to get a nugget here and there even when we weren't that good and now never. You are asking why a dying beast is not feeding on Iona. They do not serve food in the ICU - drugs only to dull the pain. Yes I would think they'd have to allocate their resources more efficiently and economically than they did in the past. That's why there is no Sean Brennan covering the local hoops scene. I loved Sean, thought he was great.
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Post by GuyF on Jan 27, 2015 11:30:06 GMT -5
No one should care what the print media does. It's dying (sorry epatrick). If there's a story in a paper, a reader will flip by it. Remember though that the people who see those stories on Daly Dose and NYBuckets are seeing it because that's what interests them. Daily News circulation of a million or whatever is meaningless if only 50 people read the Iona story instead of flipping by it.
When you only get 2K fans per game and maybe another hundred or so watching online, do you really expect NY media to take their valuable air time and devote it to you? Nobody gives a crap.
This is the beauty of Twitter: you get only the information you want to get, from the people you want to get it from. Doesn't matter what the topic is--you create it to suit your needs. The average college basketball fan in NY isn't following Daly Dose or NY Buckets because that's not their focal point. Along those lines, if there were 8000 St John's fans at MSG the other day, really most of them aren't true fans and I'd wager only a minimal percentage were showing up on campus for games vs NJIT and Niagara.
In reality, yeah, we want everyone across the land to know our name. The only way to do that is to win in March. It's the ONLY way. And even then, it's a fleeting interest. If Iona gets to the Sweet 16, they'll be national media darlings, and that will carry over to the start of next season. But as soon as we lose a game to George Mason, we'll be forgotten again. This is life as a mid-major. Forget about it and just win.
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Post by iona05 on Jan 27, 2015 11:56:02 GMT -5
No one should care what the print media does. It's dying (sorry epatrick). If there's a story in a paper, a reader will flip by it. Remember though that the people who see those stories on Daly Dose and NYBuckets are seeing it because that's what interests them. Daily News circulation of a million or whatever is meaningless if only 50 people read the Iona story instead of flipping by it. When you only get 2K fans per game and maybe another hundred or so watching online, do you really expect NY media to take their valuable air time and devote it to you? Nobody gives a crap. This is the beauty of Twitter: you get only the information you want to get, from the people you want to get it from. Doesn't matter what the topic is--you create it to suit your needs. The average college basketball fan in NY isn't following Daly Dose or NY Buckets because that's not their focal point. Along those lines, if there were 8000 St John's fans at MSG the other day, really most of them aren't true fans and I'd wager only a minimal percentage were showing up on campus for games vs NJIT and Niagara. In reality, yeah, we want everyone across the land to know our name. The only way to do that is to win in March. It's the ONLY way. And even then, it's a fleeting interest. If Iona gets to the Sweet 16, they'll be national media darlings, and that will carry over to the start of next season. But as soon as we lose a game to George Mason, we'll be forgotten again. This is life as a mid-major. Forget about it and just win. Good post. But will disagree with one thing. Still think there's a lot of value in the traditional media toward helping the Iona brand grow. There are a ton of casual sports fans in NY Metro area who are still reliant on traditional media and would help us out a lot if they knew about us.
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Post by GuyF on Jan 27, 2015 12:01:43 GMT -5
Only fans who rely on traditional media have a foot in the grave.
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Post by iona05 on Jan 27, 2015 12:06:37 GMT -5
Only fans who rely on traditional media have a foot in the grave. :-) BTW, this is the same argument as the ESPN3/MAAC Tourney argument. No question media consumption is going the way of blogs, social media, etc. In fact, it's already arrived in 99% of the cases. But there are still certain exceptions where it's a bit ahead of its time and traditional media should be prioritized ahead of it. One example is the MAAC Tourney. Would take regional broadcast TV rights over national online TV any day of the week for that event. Think the general argument of Iona needing traditional media coverage to capture the casual fan is also true to an extent.
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