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Post by iona05 on Feb 22, 2015 12:18:53 GMT -5
Maybe not as much disparity as you would first think. Should probably keep this updated as season concludes:
97-98 Team: Reg Season Record: 23-5 Conf Record: 15-3 Away Record: 11-3 Best OOC Wins: Rutgers, Providence, Hofstra, Wagner Peak RPI: 34 Peak Winning Streak: 15 Conf Tourney Outcome: Champions NCAA Seeding: 12 Postseason Outcome: Lost heartbreaker to Syracuse on buzzer beater, 63-61
11-12 Team: Reg Season Record: 24-6 Conf Record: 15-3 Away Record: 11-4 Best OOC Wins: Maryland, St. Joseph's, Denver, Nevada Peak RPI: 39 Peak Winning Streak: 7 Conf Tourney Outcome: Lost in Semifinals NCAA Seeding: 14 Postseason Outcome: Lost to BYU in opening round, 78-72.
14-15 Team: Reg Season Record: 22-6 Conf Record: 15-2 Away Record: 10-6 Best OOC Wins: Wake Forest, FGCU, Indiana State, Cleveland State Peak RPI: 41 Peak Winning Streak: 9 (Active) Conf Tourney Outcome: TBD Postseason Outcome: TBD
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Post by java on Feb 22, 2015 13:06:33 GMT -5
Nice thread 05.
Still a bit too early to place the 14/15 team. If they flame out in the MAAC tourney, I believe they would be a notch below 11/12.
If they win the conference title, get slated as a 12/13 seed against a favorable match up, I could see this team on equal terms with 97/98.
I really liked McDonald and Hameed. They were a better defensive team than this years squad.
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Post by iona1970 on Feb 22, 2015 15:22:10 GMT -5
05 had the easiest schedule by far
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Post by iona05 on Feb 23, 2015 21:18:23 GMT -5
Updated numbers for 14-15 team: Reg Season Record: 23-6 Conf Record: 16-2 Away Record: 10-6 Best OOC Wins: Wake Forest, FGCU, Indiana State, Cleveland State Peak RPI: 41 Peak Winning Streak: 10 (Active) Conf Tourney Outcome: TBD Postseason Outcome: TBD
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Post by java on Feb 27, 2015 22:46:40 GMT -5
Let's see how things shake out, but I'm starting to lean toward "on par" with the 1998 team.
The 2014/15 squad is special. Too many offensive threats. Can't double everyone.
In TC we trust!
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Post by iona05 on Feb 27, 2015 23:35:04 GMT -5
Updated numbers for 14-15 team: Reg Season Record: 24-6 Conf Record: 17-2 Away Record: 10-6 Best OOC Wins: Wake Forest, FGCU, Indiana State, Cleveland State Peak RPI: 41 Peak Winning Streak: 11 (Active) Conf Tourney Outcome: TBD Postseason Outcome: TBD
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Post by java on Mar 18, 2015 20:41:19 GMT -5
Now that the full body of work has been completed, I would place the 14/15 team a notch below the 11/12 team and a few notches below the 98 team. The 11/12 team always seemed to be in games with very few lapses.
The 98 team played some defense, was tough on the boards, had a great point in MacDonald and could excel in a half court or open style game. Hammed was a beast.
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Post by iona05 on Mar 18, 2015 20:45:35 GMT -5
No question.
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Post by hawaii bill on Mar 18, 2015 21:47:25 GMT -5
Now that the full body of work has been completed, I would place the 14/15 team a notch below the 11/12 team and a few notches below the 98 team. The 11/12 team always seemed to be in games with very few lapses. The 98 team played some defense, was tough on the boards, had a great point in MacDonald and could excel in a half court or open style game. Hammed was a beast. 98 team was outstanding. Hameed and Kirksay.
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Post by ichoops on Mar 22, 2015 11:07:51 GMT -5
Based on the end of season I think this team is on par with Burtt/Soliver team with DLIII being the big difference.
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Post by GuyF on Mar 22, 2015 14:23:41 GMT -5
Based on the end of season I think this team is on par with Burtt/Soliver team with DLIII being the big difference. Not even remotely close.
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Post by iona1970 on Mar 22, 2015 14:42:06 GMT -5
15, can't be in the same discussion as the other 2, 98 could have won a NCAA game, 12 should have won a NCAA game, 15 crapped the bed in the postseason
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Post by GuyF on Mar 22, 2015 15:24:33 GMT -5
15, can't be in the same discussion as the other 2, 98 could have won a NCAA game, 12 should have won a NCAA game, 15 crapped the bed in the postseason It's not even in the convo with 2006, never mind 98 or 12.
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Post by Joebird on Mar 22, 2015 15:52:07 GMT -5
15, can't be in the same discussion as the other 2, 98 could have won a NCAA game, 12 should have won a NCAA game, 15 crapped the bed in the postseason It's not even in the convo with 2006, never mind 98 or 12. And 14 may have been better, we were fooled by how bad the Maac was. Side note all 7 teams that had 40%+ of their shots being 3 pointers are all gone from the tourney. The ncaa and Maac tourney are not made for three point teams to survive for long. We have to change, my opinion has dramatically changed since we lost to Manhattan. Second side note how many non Maac top 100 teams have we beaten away from home in the cluess tenor? Denver and Maryland is all that comes to mind and I don't think Maryland was top 100 and Denver was between 80-100. Cluess will always win but he now needs to change a bit so he can win when it matters. While I am rambling does anyone know how cluess has done elsewhere in the playoffs? I don't recall reading about too many long playoff runs? Anyone know? Edit: reading his bio he won 4 state championships as a high school coach so he definitely had playoff success there, he had decent success in college playoffs but never a championship. Looks like he always gets to the championship game, his kriptonite may be the 3 games in 3 days, he doesn't know how to win when his players don't have their legs any more.
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Post by ichoops on Mar 22, 2015 17:42:51 GMT -5
Maac was tough in 2006. I remember those games. Manhattan had our number back then. Gonzo!!!!
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