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Post by chelseadal on Oct 21, 2016 11:52:02 GMT -5
Why do you tend to twist things OT? The Donald is being criticized because he keeps stating that our elections are rigged. There is no proof of that whatsoever. You managed to shift emphasis to a smaller point and then use one of your derogatory posts like "easily led and gullible nations..." For Shame OT, For Shame! CHELS Chels........You see, read, and accept only what agrees or distorts to fit your '' Brain Washed mind'' In the last Presidential election in several Phila. District's Obama received over a 1,000 votes while the Republican candidate did not receive a single vote...If you believe that is possible then you are even further indoctrinated then I thought...Are you so naive to actually not believe that for many persons who have been dead for years will not have a vote cast in their name, then I have a bridge for sale.... Where is the bridge located? [/quote]
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Post by iona1970 on Oct 21, 2016 12:57:09 GMT -5
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Post by hawaii bill on Oct 21, 2016 14:14:59 GMT -5
Yeah that's from the criminal who has a history of doctoring videos. There is no evidence of rampant, wide spread voter fraud that has affected the outcome of a national election since Kennedy's father paid for votes in Chicago in 1960.
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Post by chelseadal on Oct 21, 2016 14:33:27 GMT -5
Come on Bill. If it's on Utube it must be true!:-) Let's get the election over with already.
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Post by gregcrow on Oct 21, 2016 15:03:47 GMT -5
According to Max Steele, a spokesman for the state Democratic Party, Mao or anyone else would lose their jobs for destroying voter-registration forms.
"Sexual assault and harassment, and destruction of voter registration forms, are serious offenses,” Steele said in a written statement. “There is no question that a staff member who engaged in this kind of behavior would be immediately terminated, and we are investigating the claims. Remarks like these do not represent the Florida Democratic Party and are completely inappropriate."
The video neither shows nor alleges that anyone affiliated with Clinton’s campaign actually destroyed any forms. Florida Democrats are surpassing Republicans in signing up voters. The state party has submitted 503,000 voter registration forms for this election; the state Republican Party only 60,000. The Florida Democratic Party said it trains volunteers on proper handling of the registration forms and tracks the documents to make sure none is destroyed in violation of state law.
Under state law, a “person may not knowingly destroy, mutilate, or deface a voter registration form or election ballot or obstruct or delay the delivery of a voter registration form or election ballot.” The third-degree felony carries a maximum five-year-prison term and $5,000 fine.
However, the video itself could constitute a third-degree felony on the part of Project Veritas because of Florida’s law that requires consent before someone is recorded. A person must give explicit consent or give “implied consent” by continuing to talk after being told he or she is being recorded.
As the piece noted, the "rigging" clip and claims of voter registration form destruction did not stem from activity surreptitiously recorded by Project Veritas. Instead, the viral video simply depicts an operative of the organization attempting to bait campaign workers into "admitting" they would tolerate such behavior. And as with the video involving Manhattan Board of Elections Commissioner Alan Schulkin, what Project Veritas' targets appeared to be doing was going along with leading questions rather than disputing them.
Schulkin himself provided comment to that effect, telling the New York Post that he had played along with a young woman he described as a "nuisance":
The videographer asked point-blank, “You think they should have voter ID in New York?”
Schulkin responded, “Voters? Yeah, they should ask for your ID. I think there is a lot of voter fraud.”
Schulkin defended his videotaped remarks, with slight revisions.
“I should have said ‘potential fraud’ instead of ‘fraud,’” he said.
But he reiterated his support for a voter ID requirement.
He recalled a woman asking him a lot of questions the night he was recorded.
“She was like a nuisance. I was just trying to placate her,” he said.
The October 2016 releases weren't Project Veritas' first foray into the 2016 elections and the political climate of the day. In March 2016, O'Keefe infamously bungled an attempted "investigation" by failing to hang up his phone after calling a target (thereby exposing his plot to those whom he was trying to fool). A May 2016 New Yorker article about that aborted sting examined the forces behind Project Veritas and the diminishing impact of deceptive videos:
Many O’Keefe operations, however, have fallen flat, including his repeated efforts to prove that voter-identity fraud is pervasive. “It seems like most of the fraud O’Keefe uncovers he commits himself,” Richard Hasen, a professor of election law at the University of California, Irvine, says. A sting aimed at Hillary Clinton was considered especially feeble. Veritas operatives persuaded a staffer at a rally to accept a Canadian citizen’s money in exchange for a Hillary T-shirt — a petty violation of the ban on foreign political contributions. Brian Fallon, the communications director for the Clinton campaign, says, “Project Veritas has been repeatedly caught trying to commit fraud, falsify identities, and break campaign-finance law. It is not surprising, given that their founder has already been convicted for efforts like this.”
It may be that the shock value of such exposés is diminishing. A recent series of sting videos against Planned Parenthood, created by a group called the Center for Medical Progress, involved deceptions so devious — including an attempt by undercover operatives to buy fetal tissue — that the campaign backfired. Pro-choice activists united in anger at the sting’s perpetrators, and a Texas grand jury cleared Planned Parenthood of wrongdoing and indicted the C.M.P.
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Post by oldtimer on Oct 23, 2016 16:04:31 GMT -5
A thought before Nov.8th.......
At the age of 21 and you are not a liberal, you have no HEART...
As you age and don't change and become a conservative you have no BRAIN...
Winston Churchill.........A great man.......!!!!!
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Post by hawaii bill on Oct 24, 2016 9:06:59 GMT -5
A thought before Nov.8th....... At the age of 21 and you are not a liberal, you have no HEART... As you age and don't change and become a conservative you have no BRAIN... Winston Churchill.........A great man.......!!!!! So what makes you think Trump is a Conservative? Hes basically been a Democrat all of his adult life. And his stand on global trade and protectionism, one of his core messages, is hardly conservative. Open trade/open markets is the Conservative mantra.
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Post by oldtimer on Oct 24, 2016 16:19:09 GMT -5
A thought before Nov.8th....... At the age of 21 and you are not a liberal, you have no HEART... As you age and don't change and become a conservative you have no BRAIN... Winston Churchill.........A great man.......!!!!!OT So what makes you think Trump is a Conservative? Hes basically been a Democrat all of his adult life. And his stand on global trade and protectionism, one of his core messages, is hardly conservative. Open trade/open markets is the Conservative mantra. Ctbill Ctbill...Is there one thing in above posting that mentions Donald Trump in any manner......Please leave your sheltered life in Conn. for a short vacation into the real world...The deep hidden guilt in your mind forces you to see any opposite view to be a threat to all of your misguided brainwashing....
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Post by Cjb on Oct 24, 2016 19:47:03 GMT -5
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Post by oldtimer on Oct 25, 2016 11:01:53 GMT -5
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Post by oldtimer on Oct 25, 2016 11:22:38 GMT -5
Sorry shaky hand again...
CONT. that 13 percent would be the first in a wild rush to leave the area to a safe haven...The press not only reveals its ignorance but its distain for its readers...
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Post by hawaii bill on Oct 25, 2016 11:54:46 GMT -5
Ctbill Ctbill...Is there one thing in above posting that mentions Donald Trump in any manner......Please leave your sheltered life in Conn. for a short vacation into the real world...The deep hidden guilt in your mind forces you to see any opposite view to be a threat to all of your misguided brainwashing.... Yes its a veritable Garden of Eden here in Connecticut. There are no real world problems, no crime, no violence, no divorces. All families are like the TV Nelsons. There is no drug use. There are no risks to teenagers (I have three). The 20 sets of parents whose first grade children were murdered at Sandy Hook Elementary School, one a friend of my niece who lives in Newtown, didn't really suffer much. After all they are sheltered here in Connecticut. People don't get laid off. Its shangri la really.
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Post by oldtimer on Oct 28, 2016 18:40:20 GMT -5
All quiet on the Liberal front tonight While softly falls the dew on the face of those in flight...
As the leftest think of ways of denial. Hillary is pooping in her pantsuit at the thought of her trial...
Apologies to Erich Maria Remarque, author of All Quiet on the Western Front (1929)..........
OT.....
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Post by chelseadal on Oct 29, 2016 10:32:21 GMT -5
Remember how the book ended OT. Shot in the head. Never knew what hit him.
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Post by oldtimer on Oct 29, 2016 11:43:28 GMT -5
Remember how the book ended OT. Shot in the head. Never knew what hit him. Chels.......One night on Guam we were on a mop up operation...As darkness loomed we formed as was usual a circle of protection...A young marine who I had become buddies with from Beckley West Virginia having to move his bowls wandered outside the the circle...Another Marine standing watch observed his movement, and as he thought it was a enemy, and as he was instructed shot him right in the forehead... HE NEVER KNEW WHAT HIT HIM...and I had lost a friend... Over the years my Iona game and golf trips took me through West Virginia...I was tempted to visit his home, but each time thought better of it, and decided to just let time heal the sorrow...... It is a memory that happened over 70 years ago, but will be stored forever.....
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