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Post by Gaels1997 on Jan 14, 2020 12:10:19 GMT -5
Hate to see Gist leave the team after this season as a grad transfer! He's my favorite player and a fine young man. That would suck big time. But No one knows. Nobody knows. Only him. It's all speculation. Lets pray he has some big games shooting & team gets going again & rattles off some W's . I mean anythings possible . Go Gaels!!!
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Post by ic1983 on Jan 14, 2020 12:13:27 GMT -5
Hate to see Gist leave the team after this season as a grad transfer! He's my favorite player and a fine young man. That would suck big time. But No one knows. Nobody knows. Only him. It's all speculation. Lets pray he has some big games shooting & team gets going again & rattles off some W's . I mean anythings possible . Go Gaels!!! So why not stop speculating? We have plenty of other actual events happening with the team that we can discuss.
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Post by Gaels1997 on Jan 14, 2020 12:16:13 GMT -5
I wasn't the one who first put up on board possible grad transfers go look.It was Sharkey! He speculated this initially...
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Post by sharkey on Jan 14, 2020 12:31:26 GMT -5
Wow...not was I only thrown under the bus...he put the bus in reverse and ran me over twice!! Lol
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Post by GuyF on Jan 14, 2020 12:45:22 GMT -5
Guy: Absolutely agree no question we could very easily be 7-4.But the reality is we aren't.The Princeton OT game we had in the bag. Lasalle OT game we should've won as well. St. Peter's & Niagara not just awful but characterize more as atrocious in those last 30 seconds. Four games we let slip away.But even w/o Timmy with Coach Arnold our interim at the helm , we still should've been victorious NO EXCUSES. You gotta fight to the end & that's something this team lacks. Must learn to play a FULL 40 minutes. The point was that a more seasoned head coach would have found ways to win those games. Again, you seem to be assuming that life should just carry on as usual with Arnold calling all the in-game shots rather than Cluess. That makes absolutely zero sense.
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Post by Gaels1997 on Jan 14, 2020 13:19:41 GMT -5
Sharkey I was criticized for speculating. On the other hand I wouldn’t have commented on this one nor gone there , touch this subject if you hadn’t put possible grad transfers. Wow , Cmon really?
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Post by sharkey on Jan 14, 2020 13:29:14 GMT -5
Sharkey I was criticized for speculating. On the other hand I wouldn’t have commented on this one nor gone there , touch this subject if you hadn’t put possible grad transfers. Wow , Cmon really? Dude..there was discussion on the '20 recruiting class. I listed the current roster and where they stand eligibility wise. As far as being thrown under the bus.. I was joking. You kind of need to chill out a bit
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Post by Gaels1997 on Jan 14, 2020 13:32:33 GMT -5
Guy I get the point u were trying to make but even with another coach other than TC those L’s are inexcusable. Have to factor in x’s & o’s. I don’t think the players were totally responsible, maybe a little. Am I wrong ? Be brutally honest. Won’t be disappointed with your objective.
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Post by Gaels1997 on Jan 14, 2020 13:35:26 GMT -5
Ok drop it Sharkey. Point made. Hopefully we don’t have worry about who’s returning & who’s leaving . Peace man
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Post by GuyF on Jan 14, 2020 14:31:04 GMT -5
Guy I get the point u were trying to make but even with another coach other than TC those L’s are inexcusable. Have to factor in x’s & o’s. I don’t think the players were totally responsible, maybe a little. Am I wrong ? Be brutally honest. Won’t be disappointed with your objective. The Ls vs SPC and Niagara, yes. They were horrible breakdowns late in the game. One collapse like that, you kinda say shit happens. Two, and you have to look at the staff. The players have to take responsibility too. We cannot put everything that has gone wrong this season JUST on Arnold. There are far too many seniors out there for the kinds of breakdowns we are experiencing. Re the Niagara mess, for those who are blaming Arnold for not telling the kids to foul, below is from the Journal News: The players had been told to foul Roberts specifically if he caught the inbound — he is just 4 of 10 at the foul line this season — but the instruction was to foul anyone and send Niagara to the line. "We wanted (Roberts) to hopefully catch the ball, but if he didn't we wanted to foul anyone else who catches it," Iona's acting head coach Tra Arnold said. Instead, seniors Tajuan Agee and Ben Perez both had opportunities and didn't foul. Arnold refuted any idea that it was miscommunication. "Everybody knew exactly what we said," Arnold said. "Maybe he went through a lapse mentally. Maybe he thought he was a good shooter and shouldn't foul. But even if they made both there, we still had a chance to tie it with a 3." Agee, who finished the game with 20 points, 17 rebounds and seven blocks, said he didn't act quickly enough considering the time and score. "He picked up his dribble and I thought maybe we could turn it into a steal," Agee said. "I probably should've fouled earlier. I was thinking too much. I should've done a lot of stuff differently during this game, but we are going to go back to work this week and get better."
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Post by thehat on Jan 14, 2020 14:40:40 GMT -5
Guy I get the point u were trying to make but even with another coach other than TC those L’s are inexcusable. Have to factor in x’s & o’s. I don’t think the players were totally responsible, maybe a little. Am I wrong ? Be brutally honest. Won’t be disappointed with your objective. The Ls vs SPC and Niagara, yes. They were horrible breakdowns late in the game. One collapse like that, you kinda say shit happens. Two, and you have to look at the staff. The players have to take responsibility too. We cannot put everything that has gone wrong this season JUST on Arnold. There are far too many seniors out there for the kinds of breakdowns we are experiencing. Re the Niagara mess, for those who are blaming Arnold for not telling the kids to foul, below is from the Journal News: The players had been told to foul Roberts specifically if he caught the inbound — he is just 4 of 10 at the foul line this season — but the instruction was to foul anyone and send Niagara to the line. "We wanted (Roberts) to hopefully catch the ball, but if he didn't we wanted to foul anyone else who catches it," Iona's acting head coach Tra Arnold said. Instead, seniors Tajuan Agee and Ben Perez both had opportunities and didn't foul. Arnold refuted any idea that it was miscommunication. "Everybody knew exactly what we said," Arnold said. "Maybe he went through a lapse mentally. Maybe he thought he was a good shooter and shouldn't foul. But even if they made both there, we still had a chance to tie it with a 3." Agee, who finished the game with 20 points, 17 rebounds and seven blocks, said he didn't act quickly enough considering the time and score. "He picked up his dribble and I thought maybe we could turn it into a steal," Agee said. "I probably should've fouled earlier. I was thinking too much. I should've done a lot of stuff differently during this game, but we are going to go back to work this week and get better." microcosm of the season
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Post by sharkey on Jan 14, 2020 16:31:58 GMT -5
Since this thread has covered everything, might as well post this here. Interesting point of view on the use of scholarships. With Iona having to fill at least 20 scholarships for the '20 class, I agree with this philosophy of not having 13 available scholarship players, though 9 is too much of a risk in my opinion. Hope the staff doesn't just load up on JUCOS. Would like to see a mix of transfers, JUCOS and 4-year kids as well as holding one open for a possible mid year transfer. Like Guy posted, can't win every year, we can handle a total rebuild for a year or two.
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Post by Joebird on Jan 15, 2020 16:07:52 GMT -5
Truly amazing what's wrong with Cluess hasn't leaked yet, other than the one tweet I saw on twitter, which has not been verified by anyone else. Iona and Cluess have very tight lips. I would think that a handful on this board do know. I am not sure how Iona can recruit without giving out some information to families of the recruit. I guess Cluess/Iona believe the "non-life threatening" statement is enough for now, but I think recruits will never sign unless they know more, maybe some recruits and their families do know more.
The year will be lost unless Cluess returns very soon, but I still think it may be important for him to return before the end of the season just for recruiting purposes. I think recruits need to see that he is really OK. If not see, they need to know specifics so they can believe he will return. If he doesn't return or no statement is made, you have to wonder if he will be able to coach again.
Side note (05 we need the Fairfield game thread started): While google searching Iona basketball I read in an SI betting article that Perez left the team during Thanksgiving break, this is the first I heard of this, and may explain why his minutes were down considerably in December.
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Post by Gaels1997 on Jan 15, 2020 19:51:32 GMT -5
I get the privacy aspect but everyone I think wants to really know at this point. If it’s not life threatening please expand. The uncertainty is very foggy whether he shuts it down for the remainder of this season and if he ever returns. We just want more I think everyone does. I too believe some on the board are aware . How do we be brutally honest with recruits moving toward the future. What’s the thought process in recruits heads? What’s the thought process for Tim? What’s the plan for the AD keep hush & prolong this until Tim is out of the woods/clear/comfortable to speak? But when?... Loads of uncertainty.
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Post by iona1970 on Jan 16, 2020 0:03:30 GMT -5
I get the privacy aspect but everyone I think wants to really know at this point. If it’s not life threatening please expand. The uncertainty is very foggy whether he shuts it down for the remainder of this season and if he ever returns. We just want more I think everyone does. I too believe some on the board are aware . How do we be brutally honest with recruits moving toward the future. What’s the thought process in recruits heads? What’s the thought process for Tim? What’s the plan for the AD keep hush & prolong this until Tim is out of the woods/clear/comfortable to speak? But when?... Loads of uncertainty. Nothing changes if we don't know So we don't need to know
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