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Post by GuyF on Jun 4, 2024 15:45:21 GMT -5
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Post by IONA86 on Jun 5, 2024 20:33:14 GMT -5
Kick them to the curb... restore order now before they force their agendas on us. I proposed the following on the MAAC forum:
"I've been advocating for this for about a decade. When the split happens, it won't be a division between pro and amateur sports; instead, it will be structured as FCS (I-AA) for non-Power conferences and FBS for Power conferences. This move will be marketed as a benefit for the "little guys" to compete at their level, but in reality, it's a money grab by the Power conferences. Even the Big East won't survive this shift, as big-time football schools will poach UConn and offer substantial incentives for Villanova to elevate their football program and join Notre Dame in the ACC as full members. Without UConn or Villanova, the Big East will be reduced to a mid-tier conference similar to the A10. If you doubt the intentions of the major conferences, just consider the snubs the Big East experienced on Selection Sunday this season.
The major issue is that coaches, athletic directors, and school presidents from non-Power conferences often seek jobs with Power conference schools, making them hesitant to challenge the status quo. They need to find the courage to speak out.
While the NCAA grants each school one vote, they've given too much autonomy to the Power conferences to avoid a split. This move has only delayed the inevitable and weakened their position. Each of the 351 Division I schools has an equal vote, but they are often overpowered by the 60+ Power conference schools that generate the majority of the revenue. The solution is to eliminate this autonomy, share TV revenue, concessions, video game profits, and even pool NIL money to be distributed equally to all college athletes through a collective bargaining agreement with a union. If the big schools advocate for socialism, we should provide them with an introduction to Socialism 101.
If the major schools are pushed to break away, they'll lose the NCAA and March Madness brands. They'll become a glorified minor league for the NBA, but this model is unsustainable since only a few of the 900 collegiate athletes at any given time will make it to the NBA. Players might stay longer in college, bypassing educational requirements, which would limit opportunities for high school and JUCO players who would have gone to major Division I programs. These players will end up in conferences like the A-10 and the MAAC, creating a better product for NCAA teams. Fans might prefer a traditional college sports approach with balance over an NBA-lite version offered by the Power conferences.
Although this shift would entail a significant financial hit for NCAA schools, it could foster growth and sustainability within a familiar framework. We should label the new Power Conference league as "G-League Lite" and emphasize that they are not true college sports. Additionally, prohibiting players who leave Power conference teams from moving back to the NCAA, treating them like professionals were in the past by college athletics. This would make athletes think twice about joining Power conference teams, knowing they have limited options if they are displaced by a 29 year old transfer from Duke.
We have the power—let's use it. Stop allowing the minority to control the majority. If the Power conferences walk away with most of the NCAA leadership, so be it. The NCAA will then be controlled by the smaller schools, who will also retain the trademarks, branded events and can help restore college athletics to its original intended purpose."
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Post by Cjb on Jun 6, 2024 6:45:30 GMT -5
Good argument 86, some random thoughts...
"The major issue is that coaches, athletic directors, and school presidents from non-Power conferences often seek jobs with Power conference schools, making them hesitant to challenge the status quo. They need to find the courage to speak out." - Expecting any "Profiles in Courage" from this group is a huge ask.
"...eliminate this autonomy, share TV revenue, concessions, video game profits, and even pool NIL money to be distributed equally to all college athletes" - how do you do that amongst these greedy bastards that are reluctant to share amongst each other?
"...prohibiting players who leave Power conference teams from moving back to the NCAA" - great idea, but would low and mid major coaches, AD's really want to deny these players from joining their programs?
When I think about this hypothetical (Power 6 breakoff), the only comparison besides FCS/FBS that comes to mind is the opposite of the mega-merger between the AFL and NFL and though I thoroughly enjoyed them both, it pales in comparison to the product it became.
I don't have answers. I wish I did. All I know is the product I enjoyed my entire life is now in serious jeopardy of becoming irrelevant on the national stage.
Perhaps reinstituting some of the transfer rules would be a place to start but that might be like try to put the toothpaste back in the tube.
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Post by IONA86 on Jun 6, 2024 7:57:13 GMT -5
Good argument 86, some random thoughts... "The major issue is that coaches, athletic directors, and school presidents from non-Power conferences often seek jobs with Power conference schools, making them hesitant to challenge the status quo. They need to find the courage to speak out." - Expecting any "Profiles in Courage" from this group is a huge ask. "...eliminate this autonomy, share TV revenue, concessions, video game profits, and even pool NIL money to be distributed equally to all college athletes" - how do you do that amongst these greedy bastards that are reluctant to share amongst each other? "...prohibiting players who leave Power conference teams from moving back to the NCAA" - great idea, but would low and mid major coaches, AD's really want to deny these players from joining their programs? When I think about this hypothetical (Power 6 breakoff), the only comparison besides FCS/FBS that comes to mind is the opposite of the mega-merger between the AFL and NFL and though I thoroughly enjoyed them both, it pales in comparison to the product it became. I don't have answers. I wish I did. All I know is the product I enjoyed my entire life is now in serious jeopardy of becoming irrelevant on the national stage. Perhaps reinstituting some of the transfer rules would be a place to start but that might be like try to put the toothpaste back in the tube. If they do not pursue these or similar actions, you'll end up being nothing more than Division 2. This is about money for the power conferences and has nothing to do with the kids. They took rulings and manipulated them in their favor. By following this path, they wouldn't need to rely on kids dropping to the mid or low Division 1 level, as there will be plenty of great high school and JUCO players available. The fact that the media is pushing the idea of no age or academic requirements should make everyone upset. It's as if they are all trying to gain an edge over each other, while trying to "out crazy" one another, and if it allowed to happen these people will ruin college basketball in the process. |
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Post by Cjb on Jun 6, 2024 8:32:47 GMT -5
They already have ruined college basketball.
On a related note, reports are surfacing this morning about Hurley leaving UConn for the Lakers. It’s a bit of a head scratcher to me because the NBA game is nothing like the college game anymore, but would have to think (to your reference) UConn in the Big East with no football powerhouses may have something to do with his Laker interest (though he could likely go to any power conference team he desired).
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Post by ic59 on Jun 6, 2024 8:41:57 GMT -5
It was also pointed out that the changes in college BB, helps the Lakers.
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