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Post by ic59 on Mar 21, 2011 9:37:21 GMT -5
*Has Ed Cooley coached his last game at FF? I guess anything can happen, but it looks like he'll end up at Providence.
*And speaking of the BE, shouldn't they change their name to the Big Least after their woeful performance in the tourney.
*And speaking of the tourney, I have to laugh at how Dick Vitale and Jay Bilas (and others) try to rationalize their opinion that VCU should not have been in the NCAA but in the NIT. Why is the Committee so smart, or are they not as smart as they would have you believe?
*And speaking of the NIT, yesterday's FF game showed the problem with Derek Needham. Eighteen points in the first half and two in the second, and no real idea on how to run a team. But he is a talent, and when he's hot, watch out. It will be interesting to see if can move to off guard next season with Wade at the point. He's been use to having the ball in his hands so much.
*And speaking of the ball in his hands, I'm really going to miss Rashown Dwight. IMO, when Scott is on the bench he's the guy I want at the point. Next year, JJ and Trinity will have to step up and improve their handle. They are good shooters (FG and FT), and good defenders.
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Post by GuyF on Mar 21, 2011 11:08:06 GMT -5
Re your third point, what the NCAA may do with this is use it as evidence to expand the NCAA field further. If VCU was a bubble team and now they're killing everyone on the road to the Sweet 16, who's to say what Colorado would have done, or some of those other teams.
The more I think about it, the more fun I think the NCAAs would be if the field were 96 teams. Plus, we probably would have made that field. ;-)
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Post by St. Louis Gael on Mar 21, 2011 13:48:38 GMT -5
I think there is another shoe to drop with the NCAA.
They are very insistent that we now call what used to be the first round the second round and so on. They seem to laying the "pipe" for a more complete "first" round.
What do you think of the winners of the first round of the NIT going on to the first round of the NCAA, and the remaining teams playing for the NIT Championship. In other words, the first round of the NIT is also the first round of the NCAA, and then branch off from there.
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Post by gaelman on Mar 21, 2011 15:02:04 GMT -5
I think there is another shoe to drop with the NCAA. They are very insistent that we now call what used to be the first round the second round and so on. They seem to laying the "pipe" for a more complete "first" round. .[/quote Interesting thought. Perhaps that is the reason for insisting on pretending that 64 of 68 teams received a "bye" to the "second round". The "First Four" label is sort of clever, if pretentious, but calling the round of 64 the "second round" is an insult to the intelligence of all college basketball fans. Perhaps they should go back a relabel all the play in games since they expanded to 65 to the "Premier Pair" and call the first round the second round. I had been against going to 96, but I'm starting to think it is a good idea. |
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Post by chelseadal on Mar 21, 2011 16:07:54 GMT -5
I think there is another shoe to drop with the NCAA. They are very insistent that we now call what used to be the first round the second round and so on. They seem to laying the "pipe" for a more complete "first" round. What do you think of the winners of the first round of the NIT going on to the first round of the NCAA, and the remaining teams playing for the NIT Championship. In other words, the first round of the NIT is also the first round of the NCAA, and then branch off from there. Not bad St. Louis but the name would have to change to NITNCAA tournament. ;D |
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Post by GuyF on Mar 22, 2011 14:38:27 GMT -5
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Post by gaelman on Mar 22, 2011 15:19:12 GMT -5
Bad move for Dawg. According to the guys on the Stag board, he was on the verge of turning Fairfield into the next Butler or Gonzaga, or maybe even Duke. Who do you think FF will get to replace him? Shaka Smart? Rick Pitino?  ESPN.com mentioned Norm Roberts as a top candidate for the FF job. That would be great for Iona, but bad for FF and the MAAC, IMO. Roberts is by all accounts a great guy, but he is not much of a basketball coach. The feeling on the FF board seems overwhelmingly in favor of promoting Simon. Oh and BTW, kudos to IC59 for one of the best thread titles in history. ;D |
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Post by Super on Mar 22, 2011 15:47:30 GMT -5
Good riddance to someone who turned out to be a punk! ;D Good for us in the long run!  |
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Post by Mr Doom on Mar 22, 2011 15:54:56 GMT -5
I'm one who thinks it a bad move by Dawg.
Forgetting about my personal feelings about him, he has proven himself to be an excellent recruiter and coach. Next year's Stag team will be fighting for the top spot again. He would continue to be a very hot coach who would be getting more and better offers.
Unless his wife's attachment to Providence was a major factor, I think he jumped for something that he may regret.
Providence has had trouble competing in the Big East even before its recent growth. With the expanded Big East, programs like Providence and Seton Hall are almost looked at as afterthoughts.
Just as Fordham will never be competitive until it admits that it is over its head and changes its conference affiliation, I think the future for Providence is to move to a conference where it can feel more comfortable.
The fact is that the private Catholic Colleges (Seton Hall, Providence, St. John's etc.) are not on the same playing field with the BCS schools financially.
At least at Seton Hall, they have addressed their weakness in their athletic department leadership by recently taking one of the best young ADs in the nation from Iona. Providence still has a vacuum of leadership in its athletic department.
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Post by Super on Mar 22, 2011 17:25:59 GMT -5
Doomie--agree with you totally up until the last 2 sentences. Earlier, you might have substituted Willard and Seton Hall for Dawg & PU and gotten the same result. Both should have stayed and capitalized on their recruiting efforts. I know some will argue about the immediate $$ (very tempting--I don't minimize it), but, over a career, the earnings--& the professional success/satisfaction--difference could possibly be so much more substantial. A pretty good risk to take.
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Post by Z-73 on Mar 22, 2011 17:37:13 GMT -5
Clever title, 59!
Have to agree with Super here. Dawg had a chance to have a solid career at FF.
I wish KW the best at SH, but it looks as though SH will be a mid to low mid pack team in the BE for the forseeable future. How many years will SH give him if thngs do not turn around dramatically. He could have had a nice run at Iona and perhaps gotten a better job than SH.
Same for Dawg. Had he stayed and continued to be successful at FF the bigs would come knocking. I like PC, but they are a bottom feeder in the BE. I do not see that turning around anytime soon. When Dawg doesn't give them a winning team, he's going the way of Keno Davis. Bad move by Dawg in my opinion.
Go Gaels!!!
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Post by Super on Mar 22, 2011 20:52:29 GMT -5
Thanks for agreeing Z!!!
Dawg does not have the "godfathers" that KW has. At some point, KW will have to earn it on his own. I don't think SH is the place to do that.
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Post by hawaii bill on Mar 22, 2011 21:30:51 GMT -5
I dunno about KW. Dunne's SP's team kind of convinced me that if you're a mid-major and you make it to the NCAA's you better be able to score, b/c you're not going to shut down superior athletes with your defense, unless you have some complete studs somehow. Not sure Willard's style would've worked at Iona. It may in the BE.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2011 7:20:49 GMT -5
I heard the Cooley is taking his whole staff with him...if true that could be shot for the program...unless they pick smart like we did with TC.
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Post by ichoops on Mar 23, 2011 13:52:04 GMT -5
I heard the Cooley is taking his whole staff with him...if true that could be shot for the program...unless they pick smart like we did with TC. How long did we hire Cluess for? GuyF posted a needham tweet that he may be headed elsewhere. Fine by me. |
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