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Post by jerseygael on Jan 22, 2014 15:17:46 GMT -5
I believe his name was John Este if I'm not mistaken but not positive I'm spelling it correctly
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Post by oldtimer on Jan 22, 2014 15:24:44 GMT -5
[The kid (can't remember the name, but will know it when I hear it) we had from Brewster who transferred to Ohio U with Wally Szerbiak (sp?) had that talent. Not huge, but always in the right spot.[/quote] CJB.....You messed with what I have left of my mind... I am pretty sure you are talking about the kid that had the most horrible fall I have seen on a basketball court...He was just short of 6-6, but had a knack of rebounding...He played 1 year for us, but had a good finishing career somewhere mid-west....Anyone remember his name? I no longer without help have access to my garage and old magazines.
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Post by Joebird on Jan 22, 2014 15:34:34 GMT -5
John Estick I believe
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Post by oldtimer on Jan 22, 2014 15:35:06 GMT -5
I believe his name was John Este if I'm not mistaken but not positive I'm spelling it correctly[/quote]
Jerseygael.......If you add a K to that name, I think you got it...Thanks......
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Post by chelseadal on Jan 22, 2014 15:47:53 GMT -5
Don't want to turn this into a height vs. heart thread, because we would all be complete idiots to think that height didn't have a big impact on our ability to rebound, but I found the following stats interesting. This year's team is currently 322nd nationally in rebounding, and the heights of our starting five are as follows: 6'4 (AJ), 6'5 (Armand), 6'6 (Bowman), 6'7 (IW) and 6'9 (DL3). Compare this to the 99-00 and 00-01 teams, both of which finished in the Top 40 nationally in rebounding, and there isn't much of a difference in height. We're pretty much identical in height to the 99-00 team and slightly smaller than the 00-01 team. Think it's more about the focus of the coaching staff and the mold of the individual players. 99-00 (finished 35th in rebounding): 6'2 (Young), 6'5 (Wilson), 6'7 (Grant), 6'6 (Kirksay), 6'9 (Miller) 00-01 (finished 14th in rebounding): 6'1 (Johnson), 6'5 (Wilson), 6'7 (Fields), 6'9 (Miller), 6'9 (Jenkins) Miller and Jenkins were tall beasts. We don't have any of them that play minutes for us.
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Post by resumeman on Jan 22, 2014 17:31:20 GMT -5
IMO, a major part of our rebounding woes stems from the coaching philosophy and the emphasis in practices of getting a shot up within 10 seconds. From the 4-5 games I have attended this season, the following observations seem to be more the rule than the exception:
1) on the break, outside shooters like Sean, Tre and AJ often launch their shots when we have no one in the paint. Laury is usually trailing the play, slow to get into rebounding position. 2) Laury spends a high percentage of his court time around the top of the key, trying to set picks rather than around the rim. 3) often, as one of our players takes a shot from outside, his teammates start retreating on defense rather than trying to crash the boards for a rebound.
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Post by GuyF on Jan 22, 2014 18:31:32 GMT -5
There are a million D-1 players 6-8 and up that absolutely suck at rebounding. Anyone remember Jonathan Huffman?
I didn't say height, strength, and positioning weren't factors. But desire is the biggest key.
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Post by GuyF on Jan 22, 2014 18:32:20 GMT -5
Correct. GREAT kid. Will always remember that fall he took.
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Post by chelseadal on Jan 22, 2014 19:01:50 GMT -5
There are a million D-1 players 6-8 and up that absolutely suck at rebounding. Anyone remember Jonathan Huffman? I didn't say height, strength, and positioning weren't factors. But desire is the biggest key. All these one offs. The majority of the greatest rebounders who ever lived were at least 6'9. Chamberlin, Russell, Jabbar, Bellamy, Hayes, etc. Size is needed as a rule, so is desire. I rember Huffman and I remember a lot of 6'7 guys that couldn't jump as well.
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Post by husker76 on Jan 22, 2014 19:05:13 GMT -5
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Post by chelseadal on Jan 22, 2014 19:23:17 GMT -5
Then you must be right. As your wife says, size doesn't matter . Couldn't resist
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Post by husker76 on Jan 22, 2014 19:27:40 GMT -5
Touche! Congrats Chelseadal. Just doing my best "AVIS", maybe not the biggest but we try harder. When you have the chance why would you resist. Widespreadpanic would be proud.
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Post by GuyF on Jan 22, 2014 20:09:54 GMT -5
Then you must be right. As your wife says, size doesn't matter . Couldn't resist I just try harder. See? Desire! Sent from my HTC6435LVW using proboards
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Post by Cjb on Jan 22, 2014 21:11:57 GMT -5
Correct. It was John Estick.
As mentioned, he wasn't huge (about 6'5" or 6'6"), he just had the great instinct of positioning himself where the ball was coming off the rim.
And yes, he was the one who took the worst fall I've ever seen at Mulcahy/Hynes.
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Post by ic59 on Jan 22, 2014 21:40:43 GMT -5
Hated to see John leave Iona. I believe he finished his career at Miami of Ohio. When I first started following the NBA, in the mid-forties, the leading rebounder was Harry "The Horse" Gallatin. He was a forward on the Knicks and stood 6'6. Their center was Connie Simmons, 6'8. Harry was husky and Connie was thin. The point was always that the majority of rebounds were caught below (rather than above) the rim. As players of today are much taller, that MIGHT not be true today. But it wasn't too long ago that we had a 6'10 center who couldn't rebound very well, but liked to shoot threes, which he did very well.
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