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Post by iona1970 on Feb 18, 2014 12:26:44 GMT -5
greg, I know its not that simple, I just looked to see how many teams there was no doubt we are better than, and the rest are to be determined by end of season results and arguments among the committee 05, if the teams above us win from big conferences there is no way that can happen, I don't care what it says- 4 ac teams, 6 or 7 acc teams,3 or 4 big east teams, 5 or 6 big ten teams, etc..
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Post by iona1970 on Feb 18, 2014 12:31:43 GMT -5
05, I just looked at 3 teams in the big 12, 2 of them are ranked 36. something, obviously there won't be 2 teams ranked 36, I bet if you look at the top conferences you will see that a lot
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Post by Joebird on Feb 18, 2014 13:21:02 GMT -5
I think iona05 has it, if you look at their rankings 1 thru 340 or so no teams are tied, not sure where you are seeing that.
We are likely a 14 with a chance at a 13, unlikely we will be a 15 because that would mean we lose in maac tourney or lose 3 and then win maac tourney.
Iona70 I think we should just agree to disagree because I don't think you are going to convince 05 or I and we aren't going to convince you.
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Post by iona1970 on Feb 18, 2014 14:14:25 GMT -5
joebird, look at the forcasts, an example is team ranks 20.0 and 20.1 that is a tie because you can only have 1 team ranked 20th look at the conf I used in my example its impossible to finish in the 30's
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Post by Joebird on Feb 18, 2014 15:30:12 GMT -5
This is what I am looking at, I don't see tie's, but I do know the projections of this site last year were higher then they ended up so maybe you have a point, but I think our point that we are 14 already and we have good RPI games left means we should not fall out of 14 and could move up. Also last year was a very unusual year where there were no upsets that would have bumped us up. The 5 teams I listed ahead of us in an earlier post seem pretty likely to have 1 be upset.
1 Kansas 0.6864 19-6 B12 1 0.6596 35 0.7670 9-4 3 1 2 Arizona 0.6783 23-2 P12 9 0.5913 5 0.9394 13-0 2 36 3 Syracuse 0.6739 25-0 ACC 50 0.5652 1 1.0000 13-0 11 92 4 Florida 0.6713 23-2 SEC 25 0.5804 4 0.9439 11-2 10 21 5 Villanova 0.6606 22-3 BE 18 0.5844 9 0.8889 12-1 6 31 6 Wisconsin 0.6567 21-5 B10 2 0.6173 30 0.7750 13-0 1 7 7 Wichita St. 0.6517 26-0 MVC 95 0.5356 2 1.0000 12-0 5 47 8 Creighton 0.6506 21-4 BE 17 0.5850 15 0.8476 10-2 23 49 9 Duke 0.6443 20-5 ACC 10 0.5910 22 0.8041 11-2 13 20 10 Iowa St. 0.6401 19-5 B12 13 0.5861 23 0.8021 12-0 9 74 11 Saint Louis 0.6363 22-2 A10 79 0.5496 7 0.8966 12-2 28 81 12 Kentucky 0.6354 19-6 SEC 5 0.5997 42 0.7426 10-3 17 12 13 UCLA 0.6348 20-5 P12 16 0.5853 27 0.7835 11-2 26 82 14 Cincinnati 0.6347 23-3 Amer 80 0.5489 8 0.8922 11-2 33 99 15 Ohio St. 0.6309 20-6 B10 7 0.5971 45 0.7321 13-0 4 46 16 Michigan 0.6307 18-7 B10 4 0.6007 48 0.7207 8-4 70 73 17 Virginia 0.6295 21-5 ACC 36 0.5721 24 0.8017 9-4 61 45 18 Michigan St. 0.6290 21-5 B10 19 0.5834 37 0.7661 11-2 25 56 19 Massachusetts 0.6279 20-5 A10 52 0.5647 17 0.8174 13-1 8 30 20 San Diego St. 0.6235 20-2 MWC 102 0.5300 6 0.9038 9-1 24 90 21 Texas 0.6181 20-5 B12 42 0.5686 36 0.7664 11-2 54 142 22 Gonzaga 0.6171 22-4 WCC 91 0.5398 14 0.8491 9-3 43 68 23 VCU 0.6159 20-6 A10 60 0.5584 25 0.7885 12-3 35 93 24 Iowa 0.6147 18-6 B10 31 0.5760 46 0.7308 10-2 52 161 25 Connecticut 0.6140 20-5 Amer 61 0.5583 28 0.7810 12-1 15 67 26 Colorado 0.6125 19-7 P12 28 0.5781 51 0.7157 11-2 16 37 27 New Mexico 0.6125 19-5 MWC 63 0.5577 29 0.7768 9-3 20 14 28 North Carolina 0.6120 18-7 ACC 15 0.5855 62 0.6916 10-3 32 25 29 Oklahoma 0.6119 19-7 B12 21 0.5831 59 0.6983 11-2 41 95 30 Arizona St. 0.6098 19-6 P12 49 0.5655 41 0.7426 11-2 59 192 Rank Team RPI W-L Conf SOS Rk SOS AWP Rk AWP OOC W-L OOC RPI OOC SOS 31 Toledo 0.6074 20-4 MAC 124 0.5150 10 0.8846 11-1 19 140 32 Pittsburgh 0.6043 20-6 ACC 47 0.5660 49 0.7193 12-1 40 212 33 Minnesota 0.6010 16-9 B10 6 0.5993 110 0.6061 10-2 22 33 34 Memphis 0.6004 18-6 Amer 64 0.5569 47 0.7308 10-2 27 76 35 Louisville 0.5998 21-4 Amer 101 0.5302 20 0.8087 11-2 46 156 36 Kansas St. 0.5998 17-8 B12 24 0.5811 78 0.6559 10-3 74 125 37 George Washington 0.5977 19-6 A10 90 0.5412 34 0.7670 12-2 29 123 38 Missouri 0.5948 18-7 SEC 57 0.5601 58 0.6990 12-1 21 119 39 Southern Miss 0.5946 19-5 CUSA 140 0.5066 11 0.8585 11-2 30 158 40 Richmond 0.5943 17-8 A10 51 0.5650 64 0.6822 10-5 72 88 41 Xavier 0.5937 16-8 BE 30 0.5763 85 0.6458 9-3 53 61 42 Saint Joseph's 0.5936 17-7 A10 56 0.5605 60 0.6930 10-4 80 131 43 Oregon 0.5934 16-8 P12 29 0.5779 90 0.6400 12-0 7 65 44 BYU 0.5933 17-10 WCC 35 0.5739 81 0.6514 7-5 36 6 45 California 0.5919 17-8 P12 48 0.5659 70 0.6697 9-4 77 100 46 North Dakota St. 0.5898 17-6 Sum 122 0.5169 19 0.8087 8-4 18 17 47 Stanford 0.5886 16-8 P12 43 0.5684 83 0.6491 9-3 60 85 48 SMU 0.5878 20-6 Amer 127 0.5144 21 0.8077 11-2 76 280 49 Baylor 0.5876 15-9 B12 8 0.5944 133 0.5673 10-1 12 39 50 Oklahoma St. 0.5874 16-10 B12 14 0.5857 119 0.5926 12-1 14 84 51 North Carolina St. 0.5815 16-9 ACC 32 0.5759 115 0.5981 10-3 67 116 52 Nebraska 0.5814 14-10 B10 22 0.5826 128 0.5778 8-4 84 105 53 St. John's 0.5814 17-9 BE 37 0.5721 106 0.6091 10-3 79 118 54 Tennessee 0.5797 14-10 SEC 11 0.5892 143 0.5510 8-4 62 40 55 Indiana St. 0.5793 18-6 MVC 133 0.5105 26 0.7857 7-3 71 200 56 Harvard 0.5792 19-4 Ivy 188 0.4879 12 0.8532 12-3 37 159 57 Providence 0.5773 17-9 BE 59 0.5591 95 0.6321 10-3 65 146 58 Georgetown 0.5769 15-10 BE 23 0.5818 137 0.5619 9-3 31 34 59 Saint Mary's 0.5759 18-8 WCC 88 0.5437 69 0.6727 9-3 47 59 60 Dayton 0.5755 17-8 A10 72 0.5536 87 0.6410 12-3 42 91 Rank Team RPI W-L Conf SOS Rk SOS AWP Rk AWP OOC W-L OOC RPI OOC SOS 61 Belmont 0.5746 19-8 OVC 131 0.5126 39 0.7607 8-6 45 27 62 Boise St. 0.5726 14-9 MWC 44 0.5682 122 0.5859 8-3 50 64 63 Green Bay 0.5722 18-5 Horz 143 0.5047 31 0.7748 7-3 58 72 64 Ohio 0.5700 17-7 MAC 110 0.5248 56 0.7054 9-3 56 121 65 Delaware 0.5689 19-8 CAA 147 0.5036 38 0.7647 8-7 97 128 66 Florida St. 0.5680 15-11 ACC 45 0.5680 132 0.5678 9-3 38 89 67 Mercer 0.5674 18-6 ASun 201 0.4832 16 0.8200 6-4 44 43 68 Eastern Michigan 0.5672 12-10 MAC 38 0.5719 141 0.5532 5-5 34 3 69 Maryland 0.5663 13-12 ACC 12 0.5869 165 0.5048 7-5 69 18 70 Mississippi 0.5661 16-9 SEC 89 0.5430 93 0.6355 9-4 88 108 71 West Virginia 0.5647 15-11 B12 41 0.5688 142 0.5526 8-5 144 174 72 LSU 0.5627 15-9 SEC 83 0.5481 109 0.6064 9-3 73 139 73 Marquette 0.5619 15-10 BE 70 0.5545 124 0.5842 8-5 131 151 74 Middle Tennessee 0.5616 17-7 CUSA 126 0.5148 57 0.7019 8-5 98 122 75 St. Bonaventure 0.5613 14-10 A10 85 0.5458 107 0.6078 9-4 90 221 76 Arkansas 0.5611 16-9 SEC 69 0.5546 126 0.5806 11-2 64 169 77 Stephen F. Austin 0.5608 20-2 Slnd 316 0.4320 3 0.9474 9-2 68 294 78 Clemson 0.5592 15-9 ACC 93 0.5381 102 0.6224 9-3 110 270 79 Louisiana Tech 0.5559 20-5 CUSA 233 0.4709 18 0.8108 11-3 104 291 80 New Mexico St. 0.5557 19-8 WAC 165 0.4961 44 0.7345 10-5 39 41 81 Iona 0.5540 17-8 MAAC 152 0.5014 52 0.7117 3-6 146 44 82 Oregon St. 0.5517 13-11 P12 62 0.5581 150 0.5326 8-4 134 223 83 Wyoming 0.5505 14-9 MWC 105 0.5289 104 0.6154 7-4 113 136 84 Washington 0.5497 14-12 P12 40 0.5695 178 0.4902 8-5 163 176 85 San Francisco 0.5494 14-10 WCC 84 0.5480 140 0.5536 5-5 165 101 86 Manhattan 0.5493 19-6 MAAC 228 0.4743 32 0.7744 7-2 66 183 87 Akron 0.5481 17-8 MAC 167 0.4954 54 0.7064 8-5 129 193 88 Georgia 0.5477 14-10 SEC 73 0.5530 151 0.5319 6-6 211 154 89 Vanderbilt 0.5470 14-10 SEC 74 0.5529 153 0.5294 8-4 94 113 90 Boston University 0.5463 19-8 Pat 186 0.4888 50 0.7185 7-6 96 75 Rank Team RPI W-L Conf SOS Rk SOS AWP Rk AWP OOC W-L OOC RPI OOC SOS 91 Illinois 0.5459 14-12 B10 53 0.5641 175 0.4912 11-2 49 172 92 UC Santa Barbara 0.5456 14-7 BW 162 0.4970 63 0.6916 7-4 48 57 93 Utah 0.5444 15-8 P12 128 0.5138 91 0.6364 9-1 117 344 94 Quinnipiac 0.5443 17-8 MAAC 183 0.4903 55 0.7064 5-4 121 170 95 Canisius 0.5433 18-8 MAAC 216 0.4785 43 0.7377 6-4 83 179 96 La Salle 0.5430 12-12 A10 39 0.5702 198 0.4615 8-6 109 97 97 UNLV 0.5419 17-8 MWC 132 0.5125 98 0.6303 9-4 160 252 98 Cleveland St. 0.5414 16-10 Horz 148 0.5033 79 0.6557 7-6 85 86 99 UTEP 0.5403 17-7 CUSA 139 0.5069 89 0.6404 8-5 127 112 100 Wake Forest 0.5397 14-11 ACC 68 0.5546 171 0.4948 10-3 106 245
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Post by Joebird on Feb 18, 2014 15:33:43 GMT -5
I see what you see but not sure that means anything. Maybe there is no one with an expected 43 RPI finish.
Expected RPI Rank Team RPI Forecast SOS Forecast SOS Rank Forecast Curr W-L Proj W-L Current Conf W-L Proj Conf W-L 1-25 W-L 26-50 W-L 51-100 W-L 101-200 W-L 200+ W-L Proj OOC W-L Proj OOC RPI Proj OOC SOS Current RPI Prob auto-bid 2.6 Kansas 0.6651 0.6323 1 19-6 23-8 10-2 14-4 4-4 6-3 7-1 4-0 2-0 9-4 6 1 1 33.46% 14.8 Iowa St. 0.6273 0.5779 17 19-5 23-7 7-5 11-7 2-3 5-2 6-1 5-0 5-0 12-0 8 76 10 19.01% 25.8 Texas 0.6086 0.5670 38 20-5 23-8 9-3 12-6 3-3 3-4 7-1 5-0 6-0 11-2 58 148 21 9.35% 31.6 Oklahoma 0.5999 0.5760 21 19-7 22-9 8-5 11-7 2-4 4-1 4-3 8-1 5-0 11-2 39 96 27 7.42% 42.5 Kansas St. 0.5874 0.5732 27 17-8 20-11 7-5 10-8 3-3 4-2 3-3 5-2 5-0 10-3 72 122 35 6.30% 42.6 Oklahoma St. 0.5868 0.5746 24 16-9 20-11 4-8 8-10 2-4 3-5 4-2 7-1 4-0 12-1 14 94 45 15.34% 55.2 Baylor 0.5750 0.5896 7 14-9 17-12 4-8 7-11 2-6 4-3 2-2 6-1 4-0 10-1 12 37 50 3.00% 74.6 West Virginia 0.5581 0.5654 40 15-11 17-14 7-6 9-9 2-6 3-5 2-1 5-1 7-1 8-5 151 203 71 5.36% 107.3 Texas Tech 0.5330 0.5677 32 13-12 15-16 5-7 7-11 1-6 3-5 1-4 3-1 7-0 8-5 142 180 103 0.75% 199.5 TCU 0.4812 0.5614 48 7-15 7-21 0-12 0-18 0-5 0-8 1-5 2-1 4-1 7-3 150 288 185 0.00%
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Post by epatrick on Feb 18, 2014 16:10:15 GMT -5
Unless we win 3 out of the next 4, we may not even be in the post-season NCAA or NIT.
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Post by iona05 on Feb 19, 2014 12:13:46 GMT -5
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Post by hawaii bill on Feb 19, 2014 17:17:03 GMT -5
It's nice to get some publicity. Team and coaches know they have work to do. Mini-tournament this weekend. Let's get after it!!!
Keep calm and follow Iona!!!
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Post by Joebird on Feb 23, 2014 18:30:12 GMT -5
We are now a 13 in palms bracket (before today's game), and lunardis bracket comes out tomorrow but his s curve had us the worst 13.
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Post by GuyF on Feb 23, 2014 23:50:48 GMT -5
For those who think the Manhattan game is "meaningless"--a win is probably at least a 10-point RPI boost. A loss would probably keep us where we are.
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Post by iona1970 on Feb 24, 2014 0:31:58 GMT -5
guy, how could the game be meaningless, we didn't even clinch yet, but i agree win and get the chance at the 13 seed
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Post by GuyF on Feb 24, 2014 1:04:38 GMT -5
guy, how could the game be meaningless, we didn't even clinch yet, but i agree win and get the chance at the 13 seed I'm not the one who said it.
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Post by iona05 on Feb 24, 2014 8:30:17 GMT -5
Some updates on the latest brackets:
CBS: 13 playing Virginia in Spokane (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology) SB Nation: 13 playing Michigan in San Antonio (http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2014/2/21/5432970/bracketology-2014-ncaa-basketball-byu-georgetown-bubble) Yahoo: keeps us as a 14 seed on their Big Board (http://sports.yahoo.com/featured/ncaab/bigboard/) Bracketville: 13 playing Virginia in Spokane (http://bracketville.wordpress.com/bracketology/) Daily Bracket: 14 seed playing St Louis in San Antonio (http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/) Seed Madness: 13 seed playing Texas in San Antonio (http://www.seed-madness.com/) Sportsbank: 14 seed playing Michigan State in Milwaukee (http://www.thesportsbank.net/core/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/2014-Bracketology-1.jpg) ESPN – comes out later today
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Post by iona05 on Feb 24, 2014 11:32:38 GMT -5
ESPN has us as a 13 in Spokane against St Louis in their latest Bracketology
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