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Post by iona1970 on Nov 26, 2019 14:32:11 GMT -5
Cue I70 to chime in here LOL. Agree that we really need to get more involved with these, and the fields for them are already starting to populate so now is the time to express interest, but with Tim not there I doubt this is happening. Perhaps Iona should consider hiring an outside contractor to help assemble next year's schedule given our current status. i know charleston and myrtle beach which both had a mix of majors and mids is already filled
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Post by Gaels1997 on Nov 26, 2019 15:05:05 GMT -5
I’m sick & tired of hearing people are scared to play us!! Not good enough reason!
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Post by icgael88 on Nov 26, 2019 15:43:09 GMT -5
I’m sick & tired of hearing people are scared to play us!! Not good enough reason! As much as I agree with you on this point, I also have to disagree. Based upon our OOC success these past couple of years, I don't think teams are afraid to play us as much as we think. I think it might come down to more of a money issue with them wanting to pay us to play or a scheduling issue with previous agreements with teams on back to back years. I also think that TC and the program is a little hesitant to do those showcase tournaments because of the real possibility that those tournaments might hurt the team confidence. If you look at last year's team, we had 6 new players who really didn't know how to play with each other. During that OOC schedule, we lost some close games which could've flipped our season around and our confidence, but it took the MAAC play to get our confidence back. This year we've 8 new players and evident by the first 2 games of the year, we had some issues with confidence and playing together as everyone is relatively new to each other. As much as I disagreed with the way scheduling rolled around this year, I think it might actually benefit us more than we think. We play two tough teams in UCONN and Colorado this year. These games are tests for our team to see where we stand. The other games are all winnable games for confidence and to help the team moving in the direction of MAAC play.
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Post by thehat on Nov 26, 2019 16:11:57 GMT -5
I’m sick & tired of hearing people are scared to play us!! Not good enough reason! As much as I agree with you on this point, I also have to disagree. Based upon our OOC success these past couple of years, I don't think teams are afraid to play us as much as we think. I think it might come down to more of a money issue with them wanting to pay us to play or a scheduling issue with previous agreements with teams on back to back years. I also think that TC and the program is a little hesitant to do those showcase tournaments because of the real possibility that those tournaments might hurt the team confidence. If you look at last year's team, we had 6 new players who really didn't know how to play with each other. During that OOC schedule, we lost some close games which could've flipped our season around and our confidence, but it took the MAAC play to get our confidence back. This year we've 8 new players and evident by the first 2 games of the year, we had some issues with confidence and playing together as everyone is relatively new to each other. As much as I disagreed with the way scheduling rolled around this year, I think it might actually benefit us more than we think. We play two tough teams in UCONN and Colorado this year. These games are tests for our team to see where we stand. The other games are all winnable games for confidence and to help the team moving in the direction of MAAC play. Some good points there, but watching how we schedule for the past 10+ years the top three things that influence our OOC are: 1)$ 2)$ 3)$
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Post by Gaels1997 on Nov 26, 2019 16:34:09 GMT -5
Going to the big dance should result in a worthy pre-season tourney WORTHLESS
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Post by icgael88 on Nov 26, 2019 16:41:13 GMT -5
Going to the big dance should result in a worthy pre-season tourney WORTHLESS It also depends on the teams that we beat and the prestige of those teams being invited. If I ran a tournament, I'm inviting teams that outside of their record also draw a crowd. We're a small school with a very limited fan base. We would be lucky to even fill a quarter of the arena if we played in one of these big tournaments. It is a different story when we play in a tournament in Bahamas or another country as the attendance issue will be prevalent no matter. However, look at some of these schools selected to those tournaments and their fan base. They're significantly higher and can provide a profit for those venues. Our last tournament, for example, at Disney was a prime example of our attendance issues. Super was at the game with a few of our alumni but not many. I think I saw one of the press releases for our first game which showed that 148 people went to that game. That could be another factor in the equation for tournaments not extending invites to major tournaments. TC is probably handcuffed with his selection of tournaments as a result.
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Post by Gaels1997 on Nov 26, 2019 16:45:19 GMT -5
Good point
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Post by icgael88 on Nov 26, 2019 16:57:48 GMT -5
It might be different with scheduling games with teams though outside of the tournaments. I was following a twitter account the other day that talked about how one team in the country plays every OOC on the road and makes enough money to pay for all their other sport programs as a result of those games. They finish every year one of the worst teams in Division 1, but those bigger schools know what they're getting. With us, It's not a guaranteed win so why take a chance. Sometimes some of those Division 1 schools like UCONN or Colorado don't care about their OOC opponents and schedule based upon competitiveness. However, going forward I think it's going to be harder for us to schedule games against bigger schools after the early season upsets which were supposed to be guaranteed wins (Evansville v. Kentucky; Winthrop v. St.Mary's).
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Post by broguy99 on Nov 26, 2019 22:17:46 GMT -5
Watching former Iona player Gavin Kensmil play vs Duke.. this guy wouldve been nice to have on the team. He clearly improved his game and stength.. averaging 12 and 7 for SF Austin.
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Post by GuyF on Nov 26, 2019 22:20:14 GMT -5
Going to the big dance should result in a worthy pre-season tourney WORTHLESS It also depends on the teams that we beat and the prestige of those teams being invited. If I ran a tournament, I'm inviting teams that outside of their record also draw a crowd. We're a small school with a very limited fan base. We would be lucky to even fill a quarter of the arena if we played in one of these big tournaments. It is a different story when we play in a tournament in Bahamas or another country as the attendance issue will be prevalent no matter. However, look at some of these schools selected to those tournaments and their fan base. They're significantly higher and can provide a profit for those venues. Our last tournament, for example, at Disney was a prime example of our attendance issues. Super was at the game with a few of our alumni but not many. I think I saw one of the press releases for our first game which showed that 148 people went to that game. That could be another factor in the equation for tournaments not extending invites to major tournaments. TC is probably handcuffed with his selection of tournaments as a result. It's a much bigger issue that you have to pay to get into those tournaments. That's why Tim chooses not to do them. He's not handcuffed.
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Post by iona1970 on Nov 26, 2019 23:15:25 GMT -5
It also depends on the teams that we beat and the prestige of those teams being invited. If I ran a tournament, I'm inviting teams that outside of their record also draw a crowd. We're a small school with a very limited fan base. We would be lucky to even fill a quarter of the arena if we played in one of these big tournaments. It is a different story when we play in a tournament in Bahamas or another country as the attendance issue will be prevalent no matter. However, look at some of these schools selected to those tournaments and their fan base. They're significantly higher and can provide a profit for those venues. Our last tournament, for example, at Disney was a prime example of our attendance issues. Super was at the game with a few of our alumni but not many. I think I saw one of the press releases for our first game which showed that 148 people went to that game. That could be another factor in the equation for tournaments not extending invites to major tournaments. TC is probably handcuffed with his selection of tournaments as a result. It's a much bigger issue that you have to pay to get into those tournaments. That's why Tim chooses not to do them. He's not handcuffed. There is no reason to not play MTE that r 2 mid majors and 2 majors where u get paid or a 5 team round robin like gutters and Bryant were part of
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Post by GuyF on Nov 26, 2019 23:18:30 GMT -5
It's a much bigger issue that you have to pay to get into those tournaments. That's why Tim chooses not to do them. He's not handcuffed. There is no reason to not play MTE that r 2 mid majors and 2 majors where u get paid or a 5 team round robin like gutters and Bryant were part of I agree but those guys were talking about the major tourneys.
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Post by broguy99 on Nov 26, 2019 23:31:05 GMT -5
Game of the year.. Finish of the year.. SF Austin knocking out Duke. College bball at it's best. Most amazing game ive seen in quite some time.
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Post by GuyF on Nov 26, 2019 23:46:52 GMT -5
Game of the year.. Finish of the year.. SF Austin knocking out Duke. College bball at it's best. Most amazing game ive seen in quite some time. Kensmil with the seated outlet for the winning bucket.
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Post by java on Nov 27, 2019 0:16:01 GMT -5
Game of the year.. Finish of the year.. SF Austin knocking out Duke. College bball at it's best. Most amazing game ive seen in quite some time. The head coach and Nathan Bain, the kid who made the buzzer beater were very humble in the post game interview. Hard not to root for an underdog like SFA.
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