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Post by iona05 on Apr 3, 2019 3:15:29 GMT -5
Reksonn, I didn’t say you were crazy. I said you sound like you are absolutely off your rocker. And you do. Specifically, what is it in the above two or three posts that sounds that way and why? Tell me and explain why. Help me out. Be specific, don't just say everything. Or pick one or two things and explain. Can you do that? People far smarter then you and me have written books about this including PhD's, Nobel laureates, National Academy of Sciences winners, Professor Emeriti of Physics, etc.. Maybe you should read their books or watch their lectures and tell me why they too are crazy. Don't be afraid to do that. Reksonn...how’s this for specifics? 1. You have multiple 1,000+ word rants on an Iona message board about a 9/11 conspiracy theory. I understand this is the Off Topic section, but still, come on. 2. You show your partisanship and compromise any level of objectivity by referring to President Bush as scum. 3. You insinuate that Bush’s grandfather was sympathetic to the Nazis because he had a very loose business relationship with some in the party. He also had similar relationships with Civil Rights activists, Holocaust survivors, etc. That is a dangerous and irresponsible claim to make. 4. I had to read your probability theory five times to understand the point you were trying to make where you compare rolling dice to why you should be skeptical about the government. 5. You make the assumption that because there is no video evidence of Bin Laden’s death that we should all be skeptical about if it actually happened. I could go on, but just in general it seems to me like you are trying to force feed your own views to others on this board. As New Yorkers we have all been affected by the tragic events of 9/11 in some way. Many of us feel like we are capable of grieving, coping and interpreting the events of that tragic day in our own way without interference or influence from others. You’re entitled to your opinions and beliefs of course.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2019 23:35:59 GMT -5
1). Don't just say everything. ( have multiple 1,000 word rants) Actually they are needed because people are not responding to the logic. Mostly just stupid responses. It is a very extensive topic. If I didn't furnish the logic and extensive evidence then you might say I didn't support what I am saying. I have only been able to post less then 1% of the argument. I am looking for specifics as to why my argument, the actual argument, is crazy. It is not crazy. There are many people far smarter then anyone on this board that knew the government's conspiracy theory did not make any sense. Read their books watch their lectures or just got AE9/11truth. An extensive website.
2). You should know that I am NOT a partisan of any party from my posts. In all honesty I was relieved that Hillary was not elected. I am no longer interested in Rep. vs. dems. That's stupid. And you know what? Most of these major politicians are bad people. e.g. When Hillary got caught lying about very important matters related to her job and career and U.S. affairs. What do they then say? All politicians lie. Do you think I have any respect for Trump. No I don't. He's like a caricature of himself.
3). That is definitely NOT what I insinuated. I said that he acquired major interests in Venezuelan banking concerns as WWII was winding down. And then I said, "figure it out". A little money laundering? If anything I was insinuating that he was exploiting the Nazis since the rate money launderers would charge would be exorbitant. The Bush's got rich.
4). In the end you got it though. I was hoping you would respond to the logic of the point that the governments reasons for going to war relied on a vast multitude of wild coincidences that couldn't possibly all be true. Could you respond?
5). I don't remember making that post and it's definitely not in the referred to two or three above posts. So it's hard to respond to that one except to say that "IT IS THE GOVERNMNET CONSPIRACISTS RESPONSIBILITY TO SHOW PHOTOS OF BIN LADEN DEAD" Whatever you are referring to I think I meant that they are responsible for evidence of what they are saying. That's the main point in all of this. It's not just one thing. But in any case my request was that you show that the above 2 or three posts are crazy. They are not.
In most political contexts your concluding comments would be spot on. This is different. We are killing people and we need to show evidence for why. I'm sorry I'm going to be posting questions for which if the government was telling the truth, they could easily answer. We could call off our foreign policy. Bring the small faction of Gov. to justice and so on. This is important.
P.S. You might be surprised at the prominent members of this board (all two of them) that have IM'd me and told me that I was right but don't try to convince these people. They are just here to talk about basketball as a distraction. But this is off topic discussion. I will get to it; no time now, it's damn late.
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Post by ic1983 on Apr 4, 2019 10:08:33 GMT -5
I use the “hide posts” function for Rekson. It works well, and hides all of the mentally disturbed crap he posts on the message board.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2019 19:36:22 GMT -5
Specifics? I am asking for specifics 83. Come on now. But you know what, maybe you are not capable, so stop reading the posts. There are other people (you'd be surprised at who), who know you have your head in the wrong place and can't see. None so blind as those who will not see. I asked for specifics as to why my above post was crazy. Got nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2019 20:17:19 GMT -5
The United States government broke it's own federal laws when it quickly shipped all the steel to China and had it illegally melted down. How could anyone say that this does not look like a cover up? I mean really. If you think this statement is crazy tell me specifically why. Don't just say "it's crazy because I have a different opinion".
The collapse of building 7 looks exactly like a controlled demo especially when it's video is placed along side of that of a publicly planned controlled demo. (This technology took decades to develop and would cost hundreds of millions of dollars. It does not happen by accident). The law requires that with "high level damage" testing for explosives be done. They broke their own law here also. This is more evidence for cover up. The cover up is usually more revealing then the crime. (again I can only get to a small fraction of this evidence here). Why are the people responsible for this breach of law not being held accountable? After all it is already proven that it was done. Is this a crazy statement? Tell me why specifically if you think so.
To those who say there is no evidence that the government perpetrated 9/11, you miss the point. It is the accuser's responsibility to prove THEIR point. In a controlled demo their would have to be hundreds if not thousands of steel beams all cut at a specific angle to allow the building to collapse in on itself as they are designed to do. No problem. All you would have to do is get the steel and examine, photograph, and document each one as the law requires. BUT THEY DID NOT DO THIS! THEY BROKE THEIR OWN LAWS! They shipped it off to China and they melted it down very quickly and illegally. Clear evidence of a cover up. I'm questioning the Government's conspiracy theory and it is their responsibility to provide clear answers, evidence, and proof. It's not my responsibility to prove anything. I just want evidence of their theory.
You can't just say something or someone is crazy. You'd have to say why specifically. You can't just say, "it's crazy because it just is?" That makes no sense. And it's unethical.
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Post by iona1970 on Apr 5, 2019 9:20:27 GMT -5
Enough of this shit reckson No one is partaking in your bullshit Leave it on the st johns site 3 pages and its all u no one responding unless they say u r a moron
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Post by St. Louis Gael on Apr 5, 2019 10:13:27 GMT -5
Enough of this shit reckson No one is partaking in your bullshit Leave it on the st johns site 3 pages and its all u no one responding unless they say u r a moron A raving F**KING MORON!
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Post by iona1970 on Apr 5, 2019 13:44:59 GMT -5
Enough of this shit reckson No one is partaking in your bullshit Leave it on the st johns site 3 pages and its all u no one responding unless they say u r a moron A raving F**KING MORON! I don't even think u mean me this time 😀😀😀
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Post by gregcrow on Apr 5, 2019 14:33:17 GMT -5
Looks like SID is part of a conspiracy with Craig Carton.
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