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Post by ichoops on Jan 13, 2020 1:48:38 GMT -5
Some guys have it. Some guys don’t. My suggestion is that the knowledgeable guys head court side during close games. Start yelling out suggestions! I know that I don’t possess what it takes to ever be a game coach. I really admire the ability of those of you here who know exactly what to do strategically under pressure. It’s really exciting and enjoying to see game management when executed at a high level.
Maybe this all doesn’t matter if things come together in the tourney
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Post by ic59 on Jan 13, 2020 7:46:40 GMT -5
I forgot about Risto being on the ball at the 12 seconds mark. Probably didn't do it well in practice. P. S. I actually agree with 1970 on this. Another example of poor coaching.
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Post by iona81 on Jan 13, 2020 8:01:26 GMT -5
Many keys to loss 1-Tajuan missed dunk in 1st half - 2points 2-EJ 2 missed fit in last 4 minutes 2-points 3-Tajuan 7 turnovers 4-Ashante 0 points,Risto 0 points,Perez 3 points. 5-Not enough plays run for Ross,our best shooter 6-Bad substituting 7- Should of had Risto on ball with 12 seconds late and Colton for defense,could have gotten them out AFTER WE FOULED !!!! 8-Can’t EVER let Niagara hit 15 3s. They have no size and shoot horrendously inside arc,less than 30% 9-2 1 point losses at home,2 overtime losses,do we win those 4 with TC here? Answe4 is obvious, these games never would have gotten that close. 10- I think we all feel this can be rectified with 1 thing happening,unfortunately no 9ne knows if and when this may happen Finally,anyone who thinks we aren’t involved with quite a few recruits is very wrong.
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Post by Gaels1997 on Jan 13, 2020 8:08:25 GMT -5
Iona1970 like your suggestion about timeout & subbing in Gist, Risto, & Van Eyck, or Cashaw to foul . Another big mistake. Smh I wonder if it ever crossed coaching staff’s mind...
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Post by iona1970 on Jan 13, 2020 9:35:05 GMT -5
Iona1970 like your suggestion about timeout & subbing in Gist, Risto, & Van Eyck, or Cashaw to foul . Another big mistake. Smh I wonder if it ever crossed coaching staff’s mind... It had to I was yelling it at them lol
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Post by sharkey on Jan 13, 2020 9:58:49 GMT -5
The time to mix Risto and Van Eyck into the rotation was earlier in the half when Niagara was killing it from the perimeter. Their length, and ability to defend the perimeter, MIGHT have bothered Niagara's small guards. Arnold should have tried something since the guys on the court were not capable of defending the arc. Agree subbing Risto in for IW (4 fouls) to guard the inbound was the right move. Agee said after the game the plan was to force the ball into a certain players hand and try for a turnover, but did admit he should have fouled after the defensive plan failed. With 12 seconds remaining and no timeouts, in my opinion, just not enough time to try for a turnover once a Niagara player had possession. Have to foul as soon as the Niagara kid has possession.
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Post by IONA86 on Jan 13, 2020 10:12:41 GMT -5
I am not saying all of the players fall into this category, but as a group, this is one of the lowest hoops IQ team's that I have ever witnessed.
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Post by sharkey on Jan 13, 2020 10:30:05 GMT -5
Just watched the last play of the game. Wow. Crawford's guy gets the inbound pass, and EJ doesn't foul him. Agee comes over to double team him but Crawford goes to cover a Niagara player in the corner instead of double teaming the kid with the ball. Agee doesn't foul the kid with the ball and the rest is history. That last play rivals the last play of the SPU game.
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Post by ic1983 on Jan 13, 2020 10:35:28 GMT -5
I am not saying all of the players fall into this category, but as a group, this is one of the lowest hoops IQ team's that I have ever witnessed. Completely agree. And that is where good coaching can make a huge difference. The players often look like they don’t have a clue, and Arnold looks lost.
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Post by husker76 on Jan 13, 2020 11:15:48 GMT -5
Quick question- Who has coached basketball at the high school level or higher? Being on the outside we have no idea what is going on inside the program. Watching a few practices will reveal very little. We are talking about a group of young men and a coaching staff dealing with the reality that their head coach is not there to provide the leadership they all expected. We cannot understand the level of disruption this creates. They have likely never encountered a situation like this and each of them are going to react differently to the circumstance and the uncertainty of what lies ahead. Anyone have a family member or boss become seriously injured or sick? How did the dynamics change within the family or organization? The reality is that things become much more complicated as everyone tries to adjust to the new "normal". Some handle disruptions quite well, while others do not. The individual who shows no effect on their mood, performance or thought processes is rare. Let's take a step back and not pile on. This group may never come together and play with consistency due to the disruption and challenge of no Coach Cluess. Cut them some slack and support the program. Words of encouragement and support will go farther than the critique. Remember they are "young" men and they deserve support through this challenging time. GO GAELS!
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Post by IONA86 on Jan 13, 2020 11:35:05 GMT -5
Quick question- Who has coached basketball at the high school level or higher? Being on the outside we have no idea what is going on inside the program. Watching a few practices will reveal very little. We are talking about a group of young men and a coaching staff dealing with the reality that their head coach is not there to provide the leadership they all expected. We cannot understand the level of disruption this creates. They have likely never encountered a situation like this and each of them are going to react differently to the circumstance and the uncertainty of what lies ahead. Anyone have a family member or boss become seriously injured or sick? How did the dynamics change within the family or organization? The reality is that things become much more complicated as everyone tries to adjust to the new "normal". Some handle disruptions quite well, while others do not. The individual who shows no effect on their mood, performance or thought processes is rare. Let's take a step back and not pile on. This group may never come together and play with consistency due to the disruption and challenge of no Coach Cluess. Cut them some slack and support the program. Words of encouragement and support will go farther than the critique. Remember they are "young" men and they deserve support through this challenging time. GO GAELS! I agree that being critical of everything will not help. With that said we have been beating ourselves half the time with low IQ plays and a lack of situational awareness that you would expect from a rec league player in 8th grade. In any sport or job, if the leader goes down another person (or Persons) steps up to fill the gaps. They might not be successful but usually natural leaders will develop. As for Arnold, he was dealt a shit sandwich. Many coaches have a rough time dealing with being promoted if a coach becomes ill or is fired. Look at Jared Grasso... when he took over Fordham, after Whittenburg got canned, Jared went 1-22. There is always a learning curve. While Arnold has made some mistakes that I shake my head at, he is not responsible for dumb shot selection, poor passes of mental lapses by the players. My disappointment stems from my expectations that EJ, after 3 years learning under Cluess, has not grabbed control of this team. EJ knows what it takes to win. He has seen adversity before. He needs to be the voice of this team and its leader IMHO.
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Post by iona1970 on Jan 13, 2020 11:50:02 GMT -5
Quick question- Who has coached basketball at the high school level or higher? Being on the outside we have no idea what is going on inside the program. Watching a few practices will reveal very little. We are talking about a group of young men and a coaching staff dealing with the reality that their head coach is not there to provide the leadership they all expected. We cannot understand the level of disruption this creates. They have likely never encountered a situation like this and each of them are going to react differently to the circumstance and the uncertainty of what lies ahead. Anyone have a family member or boss become seriously injured or sick? How did the dynamics change within the family or organization? The reality is that things become much more complicated as everyone tries to adjust to the new "normal". Some handle disruptions quite well, while others do not. The individual who shows no effect on their mood, performance or thought processes is rare. Let's take a step back and not pile on. This group may never come together and play with consistency due to the disruption and challenge of no Coach Cluess. Cut them some slack and support the program. Words of encouragement and support will go farther than the critique. Remember they are "young" men and they deserve support through this challenging time. GO GAELS! I do coach at the high school level, that's y I cut Arnold slack but the last play a coach in daddy ball can coach correctly
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Post by brffdone on Jan 13, 2020 12:07:48 GMT -5
If anybody is waiting for EJ to take charge, don’t hold your breath. He is a good mid-major baller and the most consistent player on the team. A good Indian but definitely not Chief material 🏀
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Post by ic59 on Jan 13, 2020 12:32:37 GMT -5
husker, does Fantasy Basketball count?
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Post by ic59 on Jan 13, 2020 12:40:26 GMT -5
Just one substitution complaint. After the 12 seconds T/O, imo, we should have taken Washington (four fouls) and EJ (not quick enough) out and put in Cashaw, Van Eyck or Gist to give a foul. Shows me that the staff wasn't thinking. Assuming we gave the foul, then bring Jelly and EJ back in. Not very complicated. You know you're having a BAD DAY when you make a suggestion (see above) and 1997 likes it. But gives credit to 1970, who, naturally, accepts the credit.
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