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Post by ic59 on Feb 11, 2023 13:51:23 GMT -5
gaelfan83, thanks for a great job. So maybe the slogan should be: "The A10, where NCAA dreams go to die!"
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Post by Joebird on Feb 11, 2023 14:42:06 GMT -5
Go through the maac teams and look at the ncaa appearances of our league. It’s way worse except for us, and that was a miracle run lead by cluess that we likely will never see again. It’s very hard to get to the ncaa tourney unless your a better than average program in a power 6 league. I’d rather take our chances in a better league.
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Post by james on Feb 11, 2023 14:58:50 GMT -5
And what’s the average seed The MAAC has had in the ncaa tournament compared to a10? I don’t know for sure but can it get much worse than the MAAC.
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Post by gaelfan83 on Feb 11, 2023 15:35:24 GMT -5
Since 2003-04 (18)Seasons (No teams in 2019-20) A10 has had 54 teams or avg 3 a year make the NCAA. MAAC has had 19 teams or 1.06 a year make the NCAA.
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Post by ic59 on Feb 11, 2023 16:35:37 GMT -5
Go through the maac teams and look at the ncaa appearances of our league. It’s way worse except for us, and that was a miracle run lead by cluess that we likely will never see again. It’s very hard to get to the ncaa tourney unless your a better than average program in a power 6 league. I’d rather take our chances in a better league. I ONLY care about us. So your point is that every other MAAC team should join the A10 except IONA?
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Post by Joebird on Feb 11, 2023 17:19:52 GMT -5
Go through the maac teams and look at the ncaa appearances of our league. It’s way worse except for us, and that was a miracle run lead by cluess that we likely will never see again. It’s very hard to get to the ncaa tourney unless your a better than average program in a power 6 league. I’d rather take our chances in a better league. I ONLY care about us. So your point is that every other MAAC team should join the A10 except IONA? I’m saying we are not going to make the tourney more than a couple a times a decade in the maac either, and be a worse program. Can be a much better program in a10, maybe even make it without winning the tourney and win a few games while we are there. Cluess was one of a kind, a hall of fame coach looks like he won’t match his success as a mid major. I want to go for it while we can, better chance for amazing things to happen in the a-10 than in the maac, despite what St. Peter’s did.
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Post by ic59 on Feb 11, 2023 18:18:57 GMT -5
Joebird, I have to disagree with you on this. I assume you believe that RP is leaving after this year and we're bringing back Tre Arnold as coach. I don't think so. I guess you think that we can be the next Fordham and go A10 and win 20 games like they did today and be in the running for an At Large Bid. I'd rather be the current Iona and KNOW that we'll make the NCAA's more time in the MAAC than in the A10.
P.S. If the next 10 years go by and we only make it to the Big Dance twice than maybe I'll change my mind.
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Post by Joebird on Feb 11, 2023 20:30:07 GMT -5
Joebird, I have to disagree with you on this. I assume you believe that RP is leaving after this year and we're bringing back Tre Arnold as coach. I don't think so. I guess you think that we can be the next Fordham and go A10 and win 20 games like they did today and be in the running for an At Large Bid. I'd rather be the current Iona and KNOW that we'll make the NCAA's more time in the MAAC than in the A10. P.S. If the next 10 years go by and we only make it to the Big Dance twice than maybe I'll change my mind. As for Pitino leaving not necessarily. I just think some of the things he does won’t be as effective as cluess in winning the maac tourney. This is almost like politics, you are not going to be able to convince others to be on your side. You are either for the a10 or against it.
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Post by gaelsiona on Feb 12, 2023 11:32:05 GMT -5
Correct it hasn’t been a one bid conference since 2005 We’re it not for an upset in the conf tournament last season they were heading toward 1 bid. Yes the point is you play in a league good enough where you can still get an at large if you don’t win your conference tournament
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Post by gaelsiona on Feb 12, 2023 11:34:08 GMT -5
Hope Siena makes the mistake and plunges in to the A-10 I don’t think it would be as big of an uphill battle as some may think. A move up in conference affiliation also opens more doors. Recruits that don’t give the 28th ranked MAAC the time of day would take more notice… especially when a guy like Pitino knocks on their door. The way I see it, Pitino already has an Iona/MAAC team that would likely be a top tier A10 team if it were to be transplanted into the A10 right now. Imagine what he might have with the wider selection of talent that would assuredly become available to him as a higher conference member. I know that much more than mens basketball needs to be considered for such a move, but from that singular perspective, I don’t see the program being totally outclassed from a competitive standpoint. We would be the 2nd best team in the A-10 right now only behind Dayton (KenPom)
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Post by ic59 on Feb 12, 2023 12:40:01 GMT -5
gaelsiona, does that mean that if the A10 were to get an At Large bid this year, then so would the MAAC unless Dayton loses in the A10 tourney.
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Post by iona1970 on Feb 12, 2023 15:56:40 GMT -5
I don’t think it would be as big of an uphill battle as some may think. A move up in conference affiliation also opens more doors. Recruits that don’t give the 28th ranked MAAC the time of day would take more notice… especially when a guy like Pitino knocks on their door. The way I see it, Pitino already has an Iona/MAAC team that would likely be a top tier A10 team if it were to be transplanted into the A10 right now. Imagine what he might have with the wider selection of talent that would assuredly become available to him as a higher conference member. I know that much more than mens basketball needs to be considered for such a move, but from that singular perspective, I don’t see the program being totally outclassed from a competitive standpoint. We would be the 2nd best team in the A-10 right now only behind Dayton (KenPom) Yes we would have the same record in the great A10, how do you figure
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Post by gaelsiona on Feb 12, 2023 16:26:54 GMT -5
gaelsiona, does that mean that if the A10 were to get an At Large bid this year, then so would the MAAC unless Dayton loses in the A10 tourney. Not sure what you’re asking. The A-10 has consistently been a 2-3 bid league every year since 2005. It’s obviously a down year this year, but I was replying to someone saying the only reason they were a two bid league last year was bc Richmond won the tournament. That’s why Pitino schedules the way he does in OOC incase we don’t win the MAAC tournament so I’m not quite sure I understand the point
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Post by ic59 on Feb 12, 2023 16:44:24 GMT -5
What I'm saying is that Iona was called the second best team in the A10?? by Ken Pom's ratings. So if Iona doesn't win the MAAC tourney, why wouldn't they get an At Large bid over every A10 team assuming Dayton wins the A10 tourney?
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Post by iona1970 on Feb 13, 2023 1:58:02 GMT -5
What I'm saying is that Iona was called the second best team in the A10?? by Ken Pom's ratings. So if Iona doesn't win the MAAC tourney, why wouldn't they get an At Large bid over every A10 team assuming Dayton wins the A10 tourney? Because it's not true
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