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Post by oldtimer on Jun 14, 2010 9:12:14 GMT -5
A question for you soccer guys.....After watching the replay about a dozen times of USA's goal slip away from the English goalie it is my opinion that the large padded fingr gloves that goalies wear impeded his control of the ball....Why is this type glove necessary...I would think that a soft golf glove type with fingers exposed would allow for much more mobility.....
Stupid question...But you guys are to blame, you have perked my interest.....
Go Gaels!!!!!!
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Post by St. Louis Gael on Jun 14, 2010 9:42:12 GMT -5
A question for you soccer guys.....After watching the replay about a dozen times of USA's goal slip away from the English goalie it is my opinion that the large padded fingr gloves that goalies wear impeded his control of the ball....Why is this type glove necessary...I would think that a soft golf glove type with fingers exposed would allow for much more mobility..... Stupid question...But you guys are to blame, you have perked my interest..... Go Gaels!!!!!! It seemed to me that Green did not play that shot with his hands. He looked like he was trying to block it with his arms and chest, like a receiver trying to trap with his arms and chest instead of getting his hands out in front.
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Post by tootie223 on Jun 14, 2010 10:49:47 GMT -5
A question for you soccer guys.....After watching the replay about a dozen times of USA's goal slip away from the English goalie it is my opinion that the large padded fingr gloves that goalies wear impeded his control of the ball....Why is this type glove necessary...I would think that a soft golf glove type with fingers exposed would allow for much more mobility..... Stupid question...But you guys are to blame, you have perked my interest..... Go Gaels!!!!!! I think it was the keeper misplaying the ball. There have been a lot of complaints about the ball they are using stemming from its unpredictability. I don't the gloves played a part because the gloves have special "grips" (for lack of a better term). In Green's case on Saturday, it appeared that he did not have his body behind his hands and sort of played it off to his side. I am not sure if the ball swerved on him, it was the wet turf, or more likely, he just screwed the pooch on the play. It is amazing how such a good soccer country like England can have such a group of inept keepers Back in the day, England had keepers like Gordon Banks (who led his side to victory in 1966 and was a top keeper in the NASL), Ray Clemence and Peter Shilton. Now they have the likes of Green and David "Calamity" James who earned his nickname for misplaying shots and allowing goals at inopportune times.
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Post by gregcrow on Jun 14, 2010 10:51:05 GMT -5
Actually a good question OT. A couple of reasons for the gloves, but the main reason is that if you ever stood in front of a ball coming at you at 80 MPH (And that ball is harder than it looks) you would want a good pair of soft gloves to lessen the impact. They manufacture the gloves for maximum flexibility so that a keeper can catch the ball. On a ball like the one that came to Green it looked like he he had enough time to get his body in front of the ball (Like an infielder) and should have been able to stop it. If he didn't have enough time (Which may have been the case with the Algerian Goalkeeper) he should have punched or pushed the ball to the outside of the area. Just remember that the guy writing this let in about 12 goals (I lost count) in a scrimmage Thursday night.
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Post by gregcrow on Jun 14, 2010 11:06:58 GMT -5
Still hope for vuvuzela ban Times Live (South Africa)
South Africa World Cup organizing committee chief Danny Jordaan says a ban on the annoying vuvuzela horns is not out of the question. Organizers say they're aware of daily complaints while encouraging fans to sing. (Fan songs and chants have been drown out by the horn blowing.)
"We've tried to get some order," Jordann said. "We did ask for no vuvuzelas during national anthems, no vuvuzelas when anyone is making an announcement or talking. We've heard from broadcasters and individuals. It's something we are evaluating on an ongoing basis." As far as banning the horns, Jordaan said, "If there are grounds to do so, yes."
Jordaan defended vuvuzelas a year ago is now reconsidering, saying he prefers singing: "Singing has always been a great generator of wonderful atmosphere in the stadiums and we will try and encourage people to sing. All through our history our ability to sing really inspired and showed emotion. In the days of the struggle [apartheid], we did not blow anything, we were singing."
The Times wrote that South Africans in general are beginning to turn against the vuvuzelas. But local organizing committee spokesman Rich Mkhondo was later quoted as saying, "Vuvuzelas are here to stay. They will never be banned. We just ask that people use them wisely."
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Post by ghostofwillard on Jun 15, 2010 8:46:04 GMT -5
Still hope for vuvuzela ban Times Live (South Africa) South Africa World Cup organizing committee chief Danny Jordaan says a ban on the annoying vuvuzela horns is not out of the question. Organizers say they're aware of daily complaints while encouraging fans to sing. (Fan songs and chants have been drown out by the horn blowing.) "We've tried to get some order," Jordann said. "We did ask for no vuvuzelas during national anthems, no vuvuzelas when anyone is making an announcement or talking. We've heard from broadcasters and individuals. It's something we are evaluating on an ongoing basis." As far as banning the horns, Jordaan said, "If there are grounds to do so, yes." Jordaan defended vuvuzelas a year ago is now reconsidering, saying he prefers singing: "Singing has always been a great generator of wonderful atmosphere in the stadiums and we will try and encourage people to sing. All through our history our ability to sing really inspired and showed emotion. In the days of the struggle [apartheid], we did not blow anything, we were singing." The Times wrote that South Africans in general are beginning to turn against the vuvuzelas. But local organizing committee spokesman Rich Mkhondo was later quoted as saying, "Vuvuzelas are here to stay. They will never be banned. We just ask that people use them wisely." I'm no soccer expert, (the only games I've ever attended are my kids youth league) but I've watched a couple games so far this world cup; and I know I'm in the minority but I like the vuvuzela's. I give those fans credit for their intensity, and to be honest for some reason soccer is one sport I'd rather watch without the announcers.
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Post by hawaii bill on Jun 15, 2010 20:50:54 GMT -5
A good example of extreme defense today from N. Korea v. Brazil. Fitting it comes from a country with an extreme, and extremely defensive government. At times there were 9 or 10 Koreans back defending while Brazil poked around for openings. Brazil still had many chances and scored twice on a beauty of a goal by Maicon where he faked a cross and a second goal set up by a beauty of a pass by Robinho. At one point it was kind of funny to see about 6 Koreans surrounding Nilmar, who still managed to get a shot on goal. The Koreans scored in th 89th minute. I think the Brazilians were shocked that they attempted a shot on goal. Brazil is very enjoyable to watch.
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Post by hawaii bill on Jun 16, 2010 19:19:53 GMT -5
Spain upset today by the Swiss. Spain had their chances. Missed two goals by a hair. No Torres until late, due to his lingering injury. Saw some of it, the Swiss were very physical. Wow.
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Post by oldtimer on Jun 18, 2010 11:22:56 GMT -5
Soccer guys.....Watched the exciting World Cup...."We was robbed"...Correct me if I am wrong....If we tie the next game....We will be undefeated but eliminated......Only in World Cup Soccer....Strange.
Go Gaels!!!!!!
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Post by Gael Fan on Jun 18, 2010 12:11:37 GMT -5
I think that ref must have relatives ref some MAAC games. Reminded me of the US vs Russia olympic basketball game back when.
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Post by gregcrow on Jun 18, 2010 12:19:50 GMT -5
Several Close calls, particularly the horrible call on the goal. But once again, if you put yourself in a position to get beat by the ref you only have yourself to blame. They need to stop whining and move on. OT, not necessarily the case. If England ties 0-0 today, then 0-0 against Slovenia and the USA ties Algeria, then I believe the USA advances. In which case the USA is Win-less and advances - Only in the World Cup!
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Post by Gael Fan on Jun 18, 2010 15:47:54 GMT -5
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Post by hawaii bill on Jun 18, 2010 18:33:15 GMT -5
Several Close calls, particularly the horrible call on the goal. But once again, if you put yourself in a position to get beat by the ref you only have yourself to blame. They need to stop whining and move on. OT, not necessarily the case. If England ties 0-0 today, then 0-0 against Slovenia and the USA ties Algeria, then I believe the USA advances. In which case the USA is Win-less and advances - Only in the World Cup! GC, this is the mature and enlightened response, and I agree we shouldn't put ourselves in that position. Having said that, it was a monumentally bad call. And like Gallaraga said after his perfect game, I'm glad I DVR'd the match so I can show my son an incredible come back and when the US beat Slovenia 3-2, but got only one point. Some thoughts: Donovan's goal was huge - great leadership. Gooch looked like he had two left feet, which is to be expected. He played great against England, but has been out so long it was hard for him to recover for this game. I think each Slovenian goal could be attributed in part to him being too slow in decision making and in getting to the ball. Bradley made some great substitutions putting Feilhaber and Edu in and taking Gooch out and going to the 3-4-3 was the right call. Nice to see the S. African crowd pulling for us; who says everyone hates us?
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Post by gregcrow on Jun 18, 2010 19:51:57 GMT -5
I agree with all your points CTB- That was a rocket by Donovan - if he hit that Goalkeeper in the face he would have killed him. Donovan is a world class player.
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Post by hawaii bill on Jun 18, 2010 23:48:16 GMT -5
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