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Post by ic59 on Jun 3, 2011 6:31:02 GMT -5
brff has a point. When it was originally announced that he was leaving Tuscon, it was because he wanted to be closer to his NYC home. Granted Florida is closer to NYC than Arizona, but it does seem a bit disingenuous, when talking about a family health issue. Who knows when he visits Iona, today, he'll commit on the spot.
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Post by Cjb on Jun 3, 2011 6:50:40 GMT -5
I agree there is a certain level of Lebronlike drama in all this. And yes, we've fed into it. Fact is, we're losing a hell of a great PG next year and now a local kid who played PG at a high major has us as one of his options. Unfortunately, I believe stuff like this happens more often than we think, but as mid major fans we're just not exposed to it.
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Post by tootie223 on Jun 3, 2011 7:12:13 GMT -5
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Post by hawaii bill on Jun 3, 2011 8:13:25 GMT -5
brff has a point. When it was originally announced that he was leaving Tuscon, it was because he wanted to be closer to his NYC home. Granted Florida is closer to NYC than Arizona, but it does seem a bit disingenuous, when talking about a family health issue. Who knows when he visits Iona, today, he'll commit on the spot. Yes, I can understand the questions re the process. It could simply be that when he originally decided to transfer, his motive was to be closer to his family. Then he reached out to a trusted adult to be an adviser in the process. A very smart move imo. It could be that Player, and possibly even his Grandmother, convinced him to look into different possibilities after SJ's wasn't an option. I think that's smart too. We just don't know. For the record, I don't know anything about the young man, or his character. I'm trusting the staff knows what its doing. I simply started this thread as an attempt at a fun exercise during a slow time to see where he ended up, actually thinking it most likely wouldn't be here. I'm not advocating one way or another that we get him. But I certainly have no reason not to want him to come here. And talent wise, given we need a PG in 2012 and he has NCAA T. experience at a major college level, it woud seem to be a very good get for us. So, like all things involved with speculating on college BB players, who knows? |
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Post by hawaii bill on Jun 3, 2011 8:20:51 GMT -5
ctbill, You are a bright person and I generally value your opinions and views. Re-read what I said... The Mo Mo thing is utter nonsnese in my opinion. Everybody is being used by this nomad and his "agent" and we buy into it? I liken this to the Lance Stephenson fiasco I followed last year. These are HS kids being manipulated by self serving adults. Aren't we supposed to be dealing with "student athletes", amateurs guided by their families and mentors who are truly involved in their lives and athletic development? To me this one is playing out like an agent looking for the best possible deal for his client. No sweat. Personally I don't see any problem with Player acting as an adviser to a kid, as long as there is nothing in this for Player. I would advise my son to ask a trusted, experienced adult for guidance if this was his decision. Its a big decision. And I would encourage him to visit, and talk to different schools. I simply hope this young man ends up in a situation that is the best fit for him, given his ambitions, family situation, etc. Whether that's Iona or somewhere else, God Bless him. BTW anyone know the diff. between an "official visit" and an "unofficial visit?" |
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Post by Mr Doom on Jun 3, 2011 8:46:11 GMT -5
I believe the difference between official and unofficial is who is paying the expenses. On an official visit the school picks up the tab for transportation, food etc. - on an unofficial visit, the player is responsible for all costs.
This would seem to fit, since all his official visits are at the most distant schools where the unofficials are local schools within driving distance.
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Post by epatrick on Jun 3, 2011 8:56:45 GMT -5
"So let me get this straight. You think a thread should be deleted because you don't think we should be discussing a possible recruit that you don't like? Seems to me the purpose of this board is to have discussions just like this. Otherwise how would we know you don't like this recruit? If Iona were actually to sign him what would you suggest? " Yes, work a bit harder and get it straight  Nowhere did I say delete the thread because I don't like the kid. Frankly I don't know the young man and of course would love to see him with us. Its' well documented that he's a player and that he would be an above MAAC level get. What I don't like is the drama and process of how his next stop is being handled. Maybe tomorrow you'll be reading how Europe has become an option for his future... The"agent" you refer to is IMHO one of the good guys who has helped many NYC kids earn quality educations through basketball. |
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Post by GuyF on Jun 3, 2011 9:14:57 GMT -5
I'm not sure why everyone out here is so skeptical of this kid. When he said he wanted to be closer to home, he had St Johns in mind and it was an excuse to get out of Zona. When St Johns fell through, he had to open his recruiting up a bit. Geez. Quite frankly, I'm FAR more concerned with all the JUCOs than giving this kid a chance. We've already seen one flunk out and he hadn't even hit campus yet.
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Post by hawaii bill on Jun 3, 2011 9:49:21 GMT -5
I'm not sure why everyone out here is so skeptical of this kid. When he said he wanted to be closer to home, he had St Johns in mind and it was an excuse to get out of Zona. When St Johns fell through, he had to open his recruiting up a bit. Geez. Quite frankly, I'm FAR more concerned with all the JUCOs than giving this kid a chance. We've already seen one flunk out and he hadn't even hit campus yet. Well said Guy. Plus "From Zona to Iona" would be a good headline. ;D |
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Post by Mr Doom on Jun 3, 2011 10:15:19 GMT -5
I think we all need to have a little more faith in our coaching staff which has seemed to have an exceptional track record in the brief time they have been doing our recruiting. In addition, I am quite sure that several of our players have been consulted as to their feelings regarding a player with whom they have a good deal of familiarity.
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Post by brffdone on Jun 3, 2011 10:57:37 GMT -5
BINGO! The SJU decision altered the whole matter.
I do hope Mo Mo ends up wearing the maroon & gold, selfishly because of the talent he is but more importantly because I like the way our kids end up with a quality education, graduate on time and get on with their lives beyond the hardwood.
Also, as in many cases we see each year, the friends and families of the youngsters from the city have good access to the games in New Rochelle. This seems important to the young man and thus makes IONA a good choice.
With respect to Dermon Player, thx epatrick for the endorsement. I was kind of rough in my characterization of him in an earlier message...
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Post by tau on Jun 3, 2011 11:17:23 GMT -5
Glover committed to Seton Hall,sued the NCAA,went juco,committed to St Francis before landing at Iona. Lamont Jones starte on an elite 8 team at a huge basketball program. Hes a kid who has had a change of heart a few times and looks like hes trying to get it right, you only get 1 shot at life(or college ball). Glover came to Iona and got it right, Momo can learn from that. If this kid was a problem child, than I might agree-but other than his changing of schools-whats the problem?
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Post by jcgael on Jun 3, 2011 12:20:46 GMT -5
Momo's a VG player who'd more than likely have a terrific career in the MAAC wearing Maroon & Gold. He has lots of options and I do not have a problem with him exploring them.
As for the staff & what they've done, I have no problems with the types of kids they are trying to bring in no one seems like a problem child. So I'd defer to their judgment.
Hey, I guess Momo's got himself a beautiful day to enjoy his Iona visit today. Who know's, afterwards he may see what Glover saw. He might see that he'll have a chance to be part of something very special here. Hopefully, Scott, Mike, et al are already working on him. ;-)
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Post by Mr Doom on Jun 3, 2011 12:27:22 GMT -5
One other factor to be considered is that MoMo was originally said to be seeking a ruling from the NCAA to waive the normal one year waiting period based upon his grandmother's illness.
If that is the case, I would think that, among the schools he is visiting, only Iona, Seton Hall and Hofstra would give that waiver a possibility due to proximity to his family.
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Post by cpman6 on Jun 3, 2011 13:44:02 GMT -5
If the waiver is approved he would want to play right away. Since Scott is the established point guard, would there be enough playing time for him? If not, why would he consider us?
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Nowhere did I say delete the thread because I don't like the kid. Frankly I don't know the young man and of course would love to see him with us. Its' well documented that he's a player and that he would be an above MAAC level get. 
