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Post by husker76 on Apr 17, 2014 10:44:00 GMT -5
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Post by Super on Apr 17, 2014 19:57:43 GMT -5
Read the paragraph beginning with : "In the end..."
Total BS!
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Post by Cjb on Apr 17, 2014 20:42:41 GMT -5
Read the paragraph beginning with : "In the end..."
Total BS! Fitting that paragraph begins with, "In the end..." because that's where O'Donnell gave it to Manhattan Colleges standards.
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Post by Cjb on Apr 18, 2014 6:54:08 GMT -5
How about "USF...USF...USF"!!! Kentucky blue tee shirts silk-screened with a white mortarboard cap with the tassle on the right (pre-graduate) side.
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Post by oldtimer on Apr 18, 2014 11:19:47 GMT -5
In ref. Manhattan's Pres. O'Donnell letter to editor......It is filled with contradictions and gobble-de-goo. To perpetrate such garbage show a utter lack of respect of the intelligence of utters...
Sorry, I to at times am under the delusion that I graduated from Harvard and I received a Rhodes Scholarship....Hard as I look, I cannot find the degrees.....No problem.....Where ever I may apply, chances are they will not bother to verify, or I can always say ''I thought I did''.....
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Post by chelseadal on Apr 18, 2014 14:19:10 GMT -5
In ref. Manhattan's Pres. O'Donnell letter to editor......It is filled with contradictions and gobble-de-goo. To perpetrate such garbage show a utter lack of respect of the intelligence of utters... Sorry, I to at times am under the delusion that I graduated from Harvard and I received a Rhodes Scholarship....Hard as I look, I cannot find the degrees.....No problem.....Where ever I may apply, chances are they will not bother to verify, or I can always say ''I thought I did''..... I agree OT. It really is an embarrassment to the Instituion and the President. No amount of double talk can change that.
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Post by hawaii bill on Apr 18, 2014 14:31:03 GMT -5
Hit the nail right on the head OT. He seems to pin the decision on whether Massiello intentionally lied to Manhattan. He says Massiello didn't. If that's true, then it must mean that Massiello was under the impression that he graduated. I'd like to know how that could be possible, being 10 credits short and presumably never receiving a diploma.
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Post by chelseadal on Apr 18, 2014 16:15:19 GMT -5
Hit the nail right on the head OT. He seems to pin the decision on whether Massiello intentionally lied to Manhattan. He says Massiello didn't. If that's true, then it must mean that Massiello was under the impression that he graduated. I'd like to know how that could be possible, being 10 credits short and presumably never receiving a diploma. I would like to know how ANYBODY can not realize they didn't graduate no matter how many credits they were short. Whether it was 1 or 100. It just can't be believed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 16:33:18 GMT -5
Maybe the president of the school has deluded himself into thinking that someone could not know if they graduated or not. But now everyone who reads that is going to think he is either a liar or an imbecile. And it's funny, because Eddie Jordan said the exact same thing last year when it was discovered that he didn't graduate. Actually, he initially disputed the fact that he didn't graduate, saying, "My professors know I completed my coursework". And then he said "Well, I thought I did". And the irony of the whole thing is that you don't need to have a degree in any discipline to be a good coach. Just look at all the great managers in baseball who never set foot in a college classroom. So I don't see the need for all this deceit and hypocrysy.
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Post by hawaii bill on Apr 18, 2014 16:41:11 GMT -5
You may not need a degree Reksonn to be a good coach, but Manhattan made that a job requirement. The whole thing doesn't pass the smell test. The President can't come out and say he lied, but we forgive him ( i.e.need to keep him because he's a good basketball coach). That gives all Manhattan employees the message that lying to their employer will be tolerated. So he's got to concoct something. They should have just cut ties with him. Personally, I think they feel they have a good coach tied up for a few years and feel they need to do this to compete with us in this regard, as we could very well have a good coach for the long term.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 16:54:56 GMT -5
I agree with everything you said, ct. But my point was that Manhattan did not HAVE to make it a requirement. And now they are stuck with all this deceit and hypocrysy. I doubt if they really care; they probably just wish this whole thing would go away, that's why he concocted this ridiculous letter that he actually thinks people will believe. And your totally right, if he was a mediocre coach, he would have been terminated right away.
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Post by chelseadal on Apr 18, 2014 17:07:59 GMT -5
I agree with everything you said, ct. But my point was that Manhattan did not HAVE to make it a requirement. And now they are stuck with all this deceit and hypocrysy. I doubt if they really care; they probably just wish this whole thing would go away, that's why he concocted this ridiculous letter that he actually thinks people will believe. And your totally right, if he was a mediocre coach, he would have been terminated right away. I think Manhattan did have to make it a requirement and I bet all or almost all College Head Coaches are required to have an undergraduate degree.
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Post by gregcrow on Apr 18, 2014 17:16:00 GMT -5
I agree with everything you said, ct. But my point was that Manhattan did not HAVE to make it a requirement. And now they are stuck with all this deceit and hypocrysy. I doubt if they really care; they probably just wish this whole thing would go away, that's why he concocted this ridiculous letter that he actually thinks people will believe. And your totally right, if he was a mediocre coach, he would have been terminated right away. I think Manhattan did have to make it a requirement and I bet all or almost all College Head Coaches are required to have an undergraduate degree. That might well be true, but from my experience meeting all the requirements is not "required" for most positions, at least in the corporate world. I can tell you I have been offerred several positions when I did not meet all of the "requirements". Difference was that I was honest about not meeting the requirements and then made my argument that I was still the most qualified for the position. Point being that requirements can be flexible, but you still need to be honest.
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Post by chelseadal on Apr 18, 2014 17:26:03 GMT -5
I think Manhattan did have to make it a requirement and I bet all or almost all College Head Coaches are required to have an undergraduate degree. That might well be true, but from my experience meeting all the requirements is not "required" for most positions, at least in the corporate world. I can tell you I have been offerred several positions when I did not meet all of the "requirements". Difference was that I was honest about not meeting the requirements and then made my argument that I was still the most qualified for the position. Point being that requirements can be flexible, but you still need to be honest. The other difference is that your positions aren't out for public display.
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Post by ic59 on Apr 21, 2014 7:25:14 GMT -5
I know that I'm one of the few/only posters on this board that is happy that SM still has his job at Manhattan, but that doesn't mean that I can't help laughing at this possible scenario: *This summer at Manhattan, SM is finishing up his ten credits for his degree, and one of the courses he's taking is an Ethics course. Well, he's having trouble on the final exam, but looks to the next desk, where the smartest kid in the class sits. And he's having no trouble with the exam. And having great eyesight, SM gets a good look and copies the kid's answers. Unfortunately, the Proctor catches him, and turns in his findings to the Administration. This time the Admin. acts quickly, and dismisses the smart kid for not covering up his answers. (And then I woke up).
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