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Post by chelseadal on Jan 17, 2015 10:39:49 GMT -5
What? These are just comments. I don't see anyone out on the ledge. Chelse last I checked we're not the staff. ooops
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Post by GuyF on Jan 17, 2015 10:43:34 GMT -5
Guy, I know you feel that some of us are being over-critical. I know it is just one game, but which of the following do you agree/disagree with? 1) Even though we were away, Niagara is a bad team that we should have beaten fairly easily. 2) No one stepped up (off the bench) in IW's absence. 3) Hines looked slow and lost on the court. 4) Amayo played out of control (usual) for parts of the game. 5) DL3 was great offensively but took too many threes and did not go up strong at times. 6) We got most of the ref calls that were questionable. Unusual for being on the road. I am not talking about the last play where AJ was fouled. 7) The 4 guys on the court with many coaches on the bench to monitor the situation was inexcusable. All of this is meaningless. We won the game.
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Post by chelseadal on Jan 17, 2015 10:45:53 GMT -5
Guy, I know you feel that some of us are being over-critical. I know it is just one game, but which of the following do you agree/disagree with? 1) Even though we were away, Niagara is a bad team that we should have beaten fairly easily. 2) No one stepped up (off the bench) in IW's absence. 3) Hines looked slow and lost on the court. 4) Amayo played out of control (usual) for parts of the game. 5) DL3 was great offensively but took too many threes and did not go up strong at times. 6) We got most of the ref calls that were questionable. Unusual for being on the road. I am not talking about the last play where AJ was fouled. 7) The 4 guys on the court with many coaches on the bench to monitor the situation was inexcusable. All of this is meaningless. We won the game. Oh
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Post by oldtimer on Jan 17, 2015 10:57:23 GMT -5
A few days ago I posted a parable describing a youth who wakes up Christmas morning rushes over to his bed room window, looks out the window and is devastated because he does not see a brand new high priced car as he expected in the driveway... Nothing can give more credence to that example then the ingratitude of the posters dominated by our new members, and their ''Spoiled brat syndrome''...We have with out doubt one of the Nations most successful College Basketball programs yet selfish never satisfied posters find picayune faults even after no less then a VICTORY... Perhaps a year or two at Marist would allow them to be thankful to once again be accepted into the hallways of Iona and its appreciating rational fans... When I was a youngster the saying ''You would cry even with a loaf of bread under each arm'' was descriptive only to the ungrateful of which there were few.....
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Post by husker76 on Jan 17, 2015 11:00:47 GMT -5
On the most basic level I agree with Guy, Iona won. It is college basketball played by young men. We will win pretty, win ugly and lose ugly. It happens. We hope to see progress with team as season progresses and playing our best at the end. The wild card is injuries. We will have to watch how coaching staff and players respond to loss of Isaiah over next several games. Adjustments take time. Give them support as they move forward. GO GAELS!
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Post by gregcrow on Jan 17, 2015 11:05:31 GMT -5
Guy, I know you feel that some of us are being over-critical. I know it is just one game, but which of the following do you agree/disagree with? 1) Even though we were away, Niagara is a bad team that we should have beaten fairly easily. 2) No one stepped up (off the bench) in IW's absence. 3) Hines looked slow and lost on the court. 4) Amayo played out of control (usual) for parts of the game. 5) DL3 was great offensively but took too many threes and did not go up strong at times. 6) We got most of the ref calls that were questionable. Unusual for being on the road. I am not talking about the last play where AJ was fouled. 7) The 4 guys on the court with many coaches on the bench to monitor the situation was inexcusable. All of this is meaningless. We won the game. While for the most part I agree with you Guy, if all of this is meaningless we might as well shut down the board. - and it was inexcusable that no one on the bench noticed four players in the game. especially since they obviously had a specific play drawn up that had the four of them grouped together.
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Post by chelseadal on Jan 17, 2015 11:07:52 GMT -5
All of this is meaningless. We won the game. While for the most part I agree with you Guy, if all of this is meaningless we might as well shut down the board. - and it was inexcusable that no one on the bench noticed four players in the game. especially since they obviously had a specific play drawn up that had the four of them grouped together. Thanks Greg. Just trying to point out some issues! You were in the sweatshirt correct?
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Post by GuyF on Jan 17, 2015 11:09:08 GMT -5
All of this is meaningless. We won the game. While for the most part I agree with you Guy, if all of this is meaningless we might as well shut down the board. - and it was inexcusable that no one on the bench noticed four players in the game. especially since they obviously had a specific play drawn up that had the four of them grouped together. Disagree. It's on Ibn. Why would a coach think to make sure all five of his adult players are on the court when they're supposed to be?
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Post by GuyF on Jan 17, 2015 11:10:32 GMT -5
A few days ago I posted a parable describing a youth who wakes up Christmas morning rushes over to his bed room window, looks out the window and is devastated because he does not see a brand new high priced car as he expected in the driveway... Nothing can give more credence to that example then the ingratitude of the posters dominated by our new members, and their ''Spoiled brat syndrome''...We have with out doubt one of the Nations most successful College Basketball programs yet selfish never satisfied posters find picayune faults even after no less then a VICTORY... Perhaps a year or two at Marist would allow them to be thankful to once again be accepted into the hallways of Iona and its appreciating rational fans... When I was a youngster the saying ''You would cry even with a loaf of bread under each arm'' was descriptive only to the ungrateful of which there were few..... Boom. OT drops the big one.
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Post by ghostofwillard on Jan 17, 2015 11:17:02 GMT -5
The guy is 104 - 50 in 41/2 years, either your trolling the board, or calling people here in the "Cult of Cluess" is the dumbest post ever made on this board! Whoah! Touched the nerve of an acolyte! That record may be impressive for his résumé, but they play in a weak league. And I don't think many people scrolling around this board are looking for winning percentages and regular season championships. In the MAAC there is only one reliable path to the NCAA's: winning that tournament. What is his record there? Many of us think his skill and effort at recruiting has produced the most talented team in the MAAC over the past few years. That is a very positive thing, one that keeps me interested in the team - even to the point of debating people that trot out meaningless statistics and insults vs. defending the points being made. And I am not a Cluess-basher. In the big picture we Iona fans are lucky to have him as our coach making Iona basketball relevant. But come on - there are some troubling aspects of the team that don't seem to change. Defense. Timeouts. Players zoning-out on straightforward actions. Do you not see that? And by the way: I want to be wrong. I want to be shut up. But not by baseless insults. By our team's performance - Dominate the MAAC!
Sorry if you felt insulted, I don't wish for you to shut up, actually I'd like to see you elaborate on the following. Since Cluess has arrived at Iona, he has finished 1st or 2nd every year, earned and at large bid, in one of the more competitive mid major leagues with the exception of the current year. MAAC league RPI 10-11 RPI 16 11-12 RPI 18 12-13 RPI 14 13-14 RPI 16 Yet you feel his record is only impressive for his resume? You don't believe he is a winning coach in a competitive league? What accomplishments would you like to see his teams achieve in order for you to deem him successfull?
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Post by ghostofwillard on Jan 17, 2015 11:27:48 GMT -5
A few days ago I posted a parable describing a youth who wakes up Christmas morning rushes over to his bed room window, looks out the window and is devastated because he does not see a brand new high priced car as he expected in the driveway... Nothing can give more credence to that example then the ingratitude of the posters dominated by our new members, and their ''Spoiled brat syndrome''...We have with out doubt one of the Nations most successful College Basketball programs yet selfish never satisfied posters find picayune faults even after no less then a VICTORY... Perhaps a year or two at Marist would allow them to be thankful to once again be accepted into the hallways of Iona and its appreciating rational fans... When I was a youngster the saying ''You would cry even with a loaf of bread under each arm'' was descriptive only to the ungrateful of which there were few..... Well put OT. People around forget 2010 when there was a huge number of coaching changes in the NY, Willard to Seton Hall, Rice to Rutgers, Welsh to Hofstra, Lavin to St. John's, and Pecora to Fordham. Iona really screwed up with Cluess!
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Post by gregcrow on Jan 17, 2015 11:28:49 GMT -5
Whoah! Touched the nerve of an acolyte! That record may be impressive for his résumé, but they play in a weak league. And I don't think many people scrolling around this board are looking for winning percentages and regular season championships. In the MAAC there is only one reliable path to the NCAA's: winning that tournament. What is his record there? Many of us think his skill and effort at recruiting has produced the most talented team in the MAAC over the past few years. That is a very positive thing, one that keeps me interested in the team - even to the point of debating people that trot out meaningless statistics and insults vs. defending the points being made. And I am not a Cluess-basher. In the big picture we Iona fans are lucky to have him as our coach making Iona basketball relevant. But come on - there are some troubling aspects of the team that don't seem to change. Defense. Timeouts. Players zoning-out on straightforward actions. Do you not see that? And by the way: I want to be wrong. I want to be shut up. But not by baseless insults. By our team's performance - Dominate the MAAC!
Sorry if you felt insulted, I don't wish for you to shut up, actually I'd like to see you elaborate on the following. Since Cluess has arrived at Iona, he has finished 1st or 2nd every year, earned and at large bid, in one of the more competitive mid major leagues with the exception of the current year. MAAC league RPI 10-11 RPI 16 11-12 RPI 18 12-13 RPI 14 13-14 RPI 16 Yet you feel his record is only impressive for his resume? You don't believe he is a winning coach in a competitive league? What accomplishments would you like to see his teams achieve in order for you to deem him successfull? + 1 - Four years, four post season appearances. Shut up.
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Post by oldtimer on Jan 17, 2015 12:04:11 GMT -5
I had to learn long ago that there are many ways to interpret rules and laws...I don't know or feel sure that playing with 4 men is a infraction...If a team was short players and lost a few more due to fouls, would it not be allowed to play with 4 players if that was all that was left?...Perhaps ''Delay of game'' might be applied as the penalty..... 6 men is understandable as it is a advantage, but 4 men is a disadvantage.
I can't find a the ruling.....Any boarders who had referee experience please if known clarify...
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Post by Z-73 on Jan 17, 2015 12:24:41 GMT -5
OT, I have no reffing experience, but check out my post on page 7. Apparently under the 2010 rules it is a technical to have only 4 men on the court, but not under the 2013 rules.
Go Gaels!!!
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Post by St. Louis Gael on Jan 17, 2015 13:35:22 GMT -5
A tale of two games. We started out with all gears in synch. I recall the announcer pointing out that we had 17 baskets and 12 assists. And we were still in the first half. Then it all changed. We stood around, went one on one, and started firing up bad shots. With no disrespect to Niagara, I don't think Niagara adjusted to Iona; I think we adjusted to - maybe to try and impress our new poster. The scouting reports are in on Iona. If it works for us in the first 15 to 30 minutes and they have been unable to disrupt the flow; why do we change? Youth! I don't read many kudos for the fact that Iona coughed up a game it had in the bag by 10 points with 2 minutes to go. Then we came back and won! What do you think '70? In that final 40 seconds you saw the entire AJ package - offense, defense, ball handling, decision making. He f****d it up; oh, great play; and so on. He won the friggin game! You New Yorkers like to carry on about how great Mariano Rivera was. If the people around him were so good, you never would have heard of Mariano. Never would have left the bullpen. By the way, I love Mariano - especially now that he is a Gael. Same for Jason Motte!
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