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Post by ichoops85 on Jan 24, 2012 11:58:06 GMT -5
Beginning to worry about Cluess in game coaching. The Santa Clara game last year was a red flag to me. The Manhattan game this year was a punch in the face. I didn't see last night's game but no way should they blow a ten point lead to a team that they beat by 30. This group reminds me of the Pat Kennedy teams of Burtt, Springer, Grimes etc. Pat had big wins. Probably should have had a few more. Has Tim beaten a team that he shouldn't have? I know he has lost to several that he shouldn't have
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Post by chelseadal on Jan 24, 2012 12:25:48 GMT -5
Beginning to worry about Cluess in game coaching. The Santa Clara game last year was a red flag to me. The Manhattan game this year was a punch in the face. I didn't see last night's game but no way should they blow a ten point lead to a team that they beat by 30. This group reminds me of the Pat Kennedy teams of Burtt, Springer, Grimes etc. Pat had big wins. Probably should have had a few more. Has Tim beaten a team that he shouldn't have? I know he has lost to several that he shouldn't have Talent wise you could argue that this team should have beaten everyone that they played. BUT, that doesn't happen in sports. He coached the team to 15 wins in 20 games. We are all upset about the Hofstra, Manhattan and Siena losses. The Maryland romp, the St. Joes win, and some others were well coached and well played and most importantly Wins. The funny thing is that most of us wouldn't complain much if we beat Siena by 1.
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Post by ako on Jan 24, 2012 13:39:50 GMT -5
im starting to lose faith in cluess, the style in which he rotates players in game (or lack there of subs) just makes no sense to me
I always have felt that he misuses glover and he doesn't get enough touches in the post/face-up. Scott needs to take more control of the team and be aggressive....kick out to shooters (who he actually has to put in the game)
Never expected for the team to win every game, but every loss is frustrating. Gaels still are a special team, just need some polishing and a better game plan....i hope cluess can provide it, for his sake.
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Post by ichoops on Jan 24, 2012 13:51:11 GMT -5
You create negativity when you dont involve your bench. This isn't HS or DII where only the starting 5 contain talent. These are all young men who've enjoyed very good success as players. The fact that Jermel can't get minutes is ridiculous.
As long as Grasso sticks around I'm happy.
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Post by gaelman on Jan 24, 2012 13:57:30 GMT -5
Beginning to worry about Cluess in game coaching. The Santa Clara game last year was a red flag to me. The Manhattan game this year was a punch in the face. I didn't see last night's game but no way should they blow a ten point lead to a team that they beat by 30. This group reminds me of the Pat Kennedy teams of Burtt, Springer, Grimes etc. Pat had big wins. Probably should have had a few more. Has Tim beaten a team that he shouldn't have? I know he has lost to several that he shouldn't have Talent wise you could argue that this team should have beaten everyone that they played. BUT, that doesn't happen in sports. He coached the team to 15 wins in 20 games. We are all upset about the Hofstra, Manhattan and Siena losses. The Maryland romp, the St. Joes win, and some others were well coached and well played and most importantly Wins. The funny thing is that most of us wouldn't complain much if we beat Siena by 1. I actually wrote my post about the poor coaching job, before the game was decided, so I still would have been upset (though not as upset) if the Gaels had pulled it out. It is not so much losing the Hofstra, Siena and Manhattan games, but HOW they lost them. The first half at HU was one of the worst halves an Iona team has played in a long time. Then against MC and SC they blew big leads. Interesting stat. In those 3 bad losses one Gael has shot a combined 16 - 49 and 2 for 14 from 3, but was still allowed to play 36.3 minutes per game. Now I don't think it is all his fault, and it might be partly due to the fact that this player continues to be aggressive (maybe too agressive) when the others seem to be getting flustered. Still, I think this player need to refrain from taking bad shots when the wheels start to fall off, and needs to sit on the bench, if he persists in taking those bad shots. I also noticed that in 2 of the 3 horrible losses, Sean Armand only took one shot.
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Post by Joebird on Jan 24, 2012 14:44:12 GMT -5
Yes in all 3 of these losses Jenkins and Armand hardly played.
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Post by iona1970 on Jan 24, 2012 16:24:28 GMT -5
its not that momo just takes to many shots, he is not aggresive 20 shots, no free throws- he is the 5th best jump shooter on the team at best and i hope he is not the point gaurd next year
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Post by albany4now on Jan 24, 2012 19:22:54 GMT -5
Joined the board just now because I wanted to get in a couple of points, respectfully I hope, about Monday's Siena game. I'm posting this on 2 threads hoping to have a better chance of a response. I live in the Albany area, have no Iona connection or interest, and would rank Siena only 3rd or 4th among the college teams that interest me. Like a few of your regular posters, I would look at your conference losses as more bumps in the road from which you can hopefully learn to be a better team. However, I too can see where there might be concern as to the question of whether you can win 3 in a row at Springfield. It is a bit hard to understand how a team with such depth can't have a more effective player rotation. Of course, fans will always complain about this topic. Siena's coach only has 2 players he can rotate with the starters and fans still complain about his choices. I wanted to make a couple observations from last night and see if you have any reaction. The local Albany paper has written extensively about the game, and the Siena discussion board is active there. Coach Mitch and some of his players indicated that it was a home crowd victory. As the game progressed, the fans became more vociferous which energized the Siena team and demoralized Iona. Machado being on the bench as much as he was certainly had an impact on the game. The Siena radio announcers from the very start of the game harped on Machado making his baskets and then looking over to the Siena bench staring down each player and coach. Don't know if this was true and don't know if it attracted anyone else's attention. Regardless, it was infuriating the announcers. Nobody commented on what Machado's motivation may have been as his play alone was speaking volumes. It was said that the Siena coach may have spoken to the officials about it. This in turn might have lead to the refs being a bit more attentive to Machado and his demeanor than they might have otherwise. However, the topic that is really bringing down the house on the Siena board is Coach Cluess' actions during the foul shots taken by Siena on Iona' first technical. Here is how one poster put it: "Never, in 40 years of watching college basketball, have I ever seen an opposing coach leading his team in clapping while opposition shooting technical FTs. Total bush league by Cluesless, who lost a lot of people’s respect last night." And that is what some people feel fired up the home folks which in turn, well,...you know how it ended. Best of luck to you the rest of the way. Siena and U Albany should have Iona's problem of figuring out which good shooter ought to be on the floor.
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Post by iona1970 on Jan 24, 2012 23:30:26 GMT -5
so our coach was bush again, at least hopefully he shook hands last night
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Post by ako on Jan 26, 2012 0:08:45 GMT -5
in my opinion, a couch should never "lead his team" in distracting players at a foul line or include himself in any aspect of trash-talk with the opposing team, its just childish. I don't particularly like when players act that way towards each other, but i guess its just part of the game. I say, show respect to the other student athletes, the refs, and the coaches. .....remember its only basketball.
if cluess actually did that, he embarrassed the college and himself
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Post by dangaelfan on Jan 26, 2012 10:02:01 GMT -5
I have to think, our biggest threat to take Cluess from Iona would have to be St. Johns
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Post by ichoops on Jan 26, 2012 10:34:37 GMT -5
St. John's is the Fordham of the Big East. Good luck to him if he goes. Just leave us Grasso.
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Post by hawaii bill on Jan 26, 2012 10:44:40 GMT -5
I've said before, God Bless him if he goes to SJ's. That's like going home for him. I don't care if coaches use Iona as a stepping stone. But while you're on the stone if you can focus on your friggin' job during the season I'd appreciate it. Pretty sure that's what you're getting paid to do. Don't want to hear he was "meeting with/talking to SJ's" before a MAAC game. He can talk all summer with them.
I like the guy. I wish him well. Lyon's leaving a year after he hired Cluess didn't exactly set an example of loyalty. We don't get guys who are loyal to the program. Does Willard even know we exist anymore?
Big Jeff was going to run down 95 for the SH job, after alums ponied up a boatload of money for the guy. Who in their right mind would say such a thing publicly, even if you felt it in your heart.
Loyalty? Don't talk to me about loyalty? Playoffs? Playoffs? ;D
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Post by ghostofwillard on Jan 26, 2012 10:58:13 GMT -5
The loyalty for Iona Basketball is the Goal Club, the alumni, and us fools on this board. I don't expect any loyalty from a head coach here, never have; never will! I just hope all parties can use each other for their desired goals!
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Post by IONA86 on Jan 26, 2012 11:10:14 GMT -5
I've said before, God Bless him if he goes to SJ's. That's like going home for him. I don't care if coaches use Iona as a stepping stone. But while you're on the stone if you can focus on your friggin' job during the season I'd appreciate it. Pretty sure that's what you're getting paid to do. Don't want to hear he was "meeting with/talking to SJ's" before a MAAC game. He can talk all summer with them. I like the guy. I wish him well. Lyon's leaving a year after he hired Cluess didn't exactly set an example of loyalty. We don't get guys who are loyal to the program. Does Willard even know we exist anymore? Big Jeff was going to run down 95 for the SH job, after alums ponied up a boatload of money for the guy. Who in their right mind would say such a thing publicly, even if you felt it in your heart. Loyalty? Don't talk to me about loyalty? Playoffs? Playoffs? ;D Iona needs to fix people running off to other schools. Like any other contract... you hold peoples feet to the fire or make a buyout very expensive. Iona needs to make it very clear to people who are being considered for a coaching job that they will hold them to the contract.
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