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Post by thehat on Dec 29, 2023 19:04:21 GMT -5
Things you will never see again- 1st team all Maac two years in a row.
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Post by iona1970 on Dec 29, 2023 19:05:50 GMT -5
Just saw this and assume it's correct. The NCAA will allow a second transfer, without sitting, through the 23-24 school year. Could be good news for us. Was discussed already, bad for us
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Post by Joebird on Dec 29, 2023 21:25:13 GMT -5
Things you will never see again- 1st team all Maac two years in a row. You may be right, but could there be a way for Iona to avoid this? Based on what Tobin said about recruiting freshmen I don’t think he believes this. He seems to think you may be able to get a kid to love their situation so much that they won’t leave for more money. Is he being ignorant? I’m hoping he is right, though I am skeptical. Iona does have some qualities and history that could make us be an exception to the rule.
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Post by epatrick on Dec 29, 2023 21:27:57 GMT -5
Just saw this and assume it's correct. The NCAA will allow a second transfer, without sitting, through the 23-24 school year. Could be good news for us. Was discussed already, bad for us Do you ever post anything that isn't a slam of '59? Let's discuss basketball instead. Just tired of girlish bickering.
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Post by IONA86 on Dec 29, 2023 21:42:17 GMT -5
The NIL and transfer shit will get worse before this is done. With that said, I don't see How this helps SJU that much. In the end the schools will be able to pay players directly and this thin veil of bullshit, trying to mask itself as being run separate from the schools will just go away. When that happens the schools with the deepest pockets will be able to dominate. SJU is a middle of the road Big East school from an endowment perspective. In fact, the Big East is not really any better of than the A-10 financially. I think the power conferences will stop at nothing to crush mid majors and even the Big East, as they want a tournament with only Power 5 teams. They also have all the pull with the NCAA because of the football money. I will shocked if the Big East is intact within 10 years. I think The ACC will come in and scoop up Georgetown & NOVA as those schools would feel they would be mixing with their academic peers by joining (Duke, ND, Virginia, Wake, & GT) and I can see UCONN jumping to the ACC or even the BIG 10 due to their crazy football dreams.
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Post by iona1970 on Dec 29, 2023 21:47:48 GMT -5
Was discussed already, bad for us Do you ever post anything that isn't a slam of '59? Let's discuss basketball instead. Just tired of girlish bickering. Everyone said he was wrong, but you wrote this to me
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Post by iona1970 on Dec 29, 2023 21:49:32 GMT -5
Things you will never see again- 1st team all Maac two years in a row. You may be right, but could there be a way for Iona to avoid this? Based on what Tobin said about recruiting freshmen I don’t think he believes this. He seems to think you may be able to get a kid to love their situation so much that they won’t leave for more money. Is he being ignorant? I’m hoping he is right, though I am skeptical. Iona does have some qualities and history that could make us be an exception to the rule. Joe, hope Tobin is right, but it sounds like you are trying to convince yourself he is right as you are writing this lol
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Post by Joebird on Dec 29, 2023 22:19:25 GMT -5
You may be right, but could there be a way for Iona to avoid this? Based on what Tobin said about recruiting freshmen I don’t think he believes this. He seems to think you may be able to get a kid to love their situation so much that they won’t leave for more money. Is he being ignorant? I’m hoping he is right, though I am skeptical. Iona does have some qualities and history that could make us be an exception to the rule. Joe, hope Tobin is right, but it sounds like you are trying to convince yourself he is right as you are writing this lol I am, Tobin is a very bright basketball mind. He has shown he knows how to build a basketball program, but we are in uncharted waters. I’m hoping he sees a path that is hard for those on the outside to envision.
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Post by ic59 on Dec 29, 2023 22:29:13 GMT -5
Just saw this and assume it's correct. The NCAA will allow a second transfer, without sitting, through the 23-24 school year. Could be good news for us. How? It makes every mid and low major more of being “developmental” conferences for the Power 6. Before this change we could and still can lose the strength of the team, our freshman class, as they would fall under "their first transfer" category. At least if that happens there will be a larger Portal Pool for potential replacements. At least, that is how I see it.
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Post by sharkey on Dec 29, 2023 22:37:26 GMT -5
How? It makes every mid and low major more of being “developmental” conferences for the Power 6. Before this change we could and still can lose the strength of the team, our freshman class, as they would fall under "their first transfer" category. At least if that happens there will be a larger Portal Pool for potential replacements. At least, that is how I see it. Problem is when a program like Iona received a commit from a transfer, there was a bit of security since if the recruit wanted to transfer again he would have to sit, so he likely stays at least until he's a grad transfer. New rule a kid can now transfer to an Iona, but can now transfer after just one year without fear of needing a waiver.
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Post by ic59 on Dec 30, 2023 7:04:39 GMT -5
sharkey, true, but it gives us a pool of potential replacements for players that leave. Before this change it was a smaller pool. And we have the advantage of having a HC that is an excellent recruiter. Think short term rather than long term.
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Post by Cjb on Dec 30, 2023 9:36:28 GMT -5
sharkey, true, but it gives us a pool of potential replacements for players that leave. Before this change it was a smaller pool. And we have the advantage of having a HC that is an excellent recruiter. Think short term rather than long term. 59, yes the pool available may be larger, but the more talented will transfer up and the less talented will transfer down. This basically consolidates all the $$ and power at the top. I envision the NCAA Basketball Tournament becoming much like football... we'll see the same Sweet Sixteen every year. Sadly, the NCAA has managed to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.
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Post by ic59 on Dec 30, 2023 10:54:15 GMT -5
Cjb, what could the NCAA have done to stop or change it?
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Post by gregcrow on Dec 30, 2023 11:00:37 GMT -5
sharkey, true, but it gives us a pool of potential replacements for players that leave. Before this change it was a smaller pool. And we have the advantage of having a HC that is an excellent recruiter. Think short term rather than long term. 59, yes the pool available may be larger, but the more talented will transfer up and the less talented will transfer down. This basically consolidates all the $$ and power at the top. I envision the NCAA Basketball Tournament becoming much like football... we'll see the same Sweet Sixteen every year. Sadly, the NCAA has managed to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs. What about the equal talent? Where does that go?
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Post by Cjb on Dec 30, 2023 11:11:03 GMT -5
Cjb, what could the NCAA have done to stop or change it? Let majority (not minority) rule.
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