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Post by GuyF on Feb 10, 2024 17:49:08 GMT -5
Sub-.500 Mount up 12 at home vs Quinny at the U8. Road games in league play. Make it 19. |
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Post by GuyF on Feb 10, 2024 18:03:47 GMT -5
Really? For saying it was a bad loss? BTW, it was a bad loss. Losing because it was just a bad shooting day is one thing. Losing because they played with zero energy and urgency is totally different. Don't see the problem with some fans having that opinion. I'm pretty sure the team feels the same. Forced 3 turnovers 1st half, 13 in the 2nd half when they played with intensity. Hopefully it's a lesson learned that they need to bring it for 40 minutes, not 10 I'm wit I'm witout |
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Post by gaelsiona on Feb 10, 2024 18:07:46 GMT -5
No one says the team or coach can’t be criticized here. What’s insufferable is over the top negativity and absurd expectations, imo. This team was assembled a year ago. 13 new guys. IMO it’s remarkable we aren’t hanging around the bottom with Siena. Quinnyis led by two guards who have played six years together, most of their team is back and their new coach was their assistant coach for the last few years. FF has experienced guards who’ve played together. Their new coach was their assistant coach. I think James might be 30 and he’s still at Rider. Today we had to rely on 3 guys who weren’t even in D-1 last year- Gordon, Quigley, and Aranguren to get us a win. Yes they are very good players, but are learning. Our Grad transfers and Os have to do more. Os and Panzo didn’t have it today. Tretout was out. This team was not going to be 11-1 at any point or even 9-3. Thanks to the former coach you can’t look at this like a typical year. They blew so many games they could easily be 9-3. We’ll take 7-5, but I still think we’re more talented than any other team in this league. |
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Post by hawaii bill on Feb 10, 2024 18:08:11 GMT -5
Sub-.500 Mount up 12 at home vs Quinny at the U8. Road games in league play. Make it 19. It’s analytically final. |
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Post by broguy99 on Feb 10, 2024 18:10:35 GMT -5
Jesus, we have a bunch of babies. Nobody said we didn’t want to get the sweep or it makes us any less competitive or masculine to say it is okay to grab a split. But for Christ’s sake look at the history. It is extremely difficult to go 2-0 in Buffalo. We have only done it twice in the past decade and many Iona teams that were far superior to this one failed to get out of Buffalo with a sweep. Look at the data, that’s all I was saying. There is a reason very few teams can run the table on this Buffalo trip. Really? For saying it was a bad loss? BTW, it was a bad loss. Losing because it was just a bad shooting day is one thing. Losing because they played with zero energy and urgency is totally different. Don't see the problem with some fans having that opinion. I'm pretty sure the team feels the same. Forced 3 turnovers 1st half, 13 in the 2nd half when they played with intensity. Hopefully it's a lesson learned that they need to bring it for 40 minutes, not 10 I'm with you sometimes man express what you feel about the games. I do it to. But to say we should win all the games we were "supposed" to is silly. It's college basketball. Were we supposed to beat SHU? Prob not. Played like crap most of the game but finished strong and won. I mean this supposed to thing is kinda rediculous. Iona never had a lead at any time during this game so they weren't supposed to win. They could have but they didn't. That's much different. Unless you are saying that because Iona was favored and is the better team they were supposed to win. If that's the case why even play the game? This team has improved a ton but they're still clearly not quite there and have lapses that are frustrating and head scratching |
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Post by ic59 on Feb 10, 2024 18:11:00 GMT -5
Guy doesn't get many games correct including Iona, today. But it looks like he nailed it, taking MSM over Quinny. Can't understand why QU was only a 1.5 point favorite. Maybe those Vegas guys do know something.
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Post by broguy99 on Feb 10, 2024 18:11:49 GMT -5
No one says the team or coach can’t be criticized here. What’s insufferable is over the top negativity and absurd expectations, imo. This team was assembled a year ago. 13 new guys. IMO it’s remarkable we aren’t hanging around the bottom with Siena. Quinnyis led by two guards who have played six years together, most of their team is back and their new coach was their assistant coach for the last few years. FF has experienced guards who’ve played together. Their new coach was their assistant coach. I think James might be 30 and he’s still at Rider. Today we had to rely on 3 guys who weren’t even in D-1 last year- Gordon, Quigley, and Aranguren to get us a win. Yes they are very good players, but are learning. Our Grad transfers and Os have to do more. Os and Panzo didn’t have it today. Tretout was out. This team was not going to be 11-1 at any point or even 9-3. Thanks to the former coach you can’t look at this like a typical year. They blew so many games they could easily be 9-3. We’ll take 7-5, but I still think we’re more talented than any other team in this league. I think the only team that has a chance at beating Iona if they play their "A" game would be Quinnipiac. |
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Post by ic59 on Feb 10, 2024 18:13:07 GMT -5
Just looked up the word Warrior in the dictionary, and I saw a picture of Greg Gordon.
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Post by GuyF on Feb 10, 2024 18:23:59 GMT -5
They blew so many games they could easily be 9-3. We’ll take 7-5, but I still think we’re more talented than any other team in this league. I think the only team that has a chance at beating Iona if they play their "A" game would be Quinnipiac. Quinny will be upset by Rider in the quarterfinals. |
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Post by sharkey on Feb 10, 2024 18:24:08 GMT -5
Really? For saying it was a bad loss? BTW, it was a bad loss. Losing because it was just a bad shooting day is one thing. Losing because they played with zero energy and urgency is totally different. Don't see the problem with some fans having that opinion. I'm pretty sure the team feels the same. Forced 3 turnovers 1st half, 13 in the 2nd half when they played with intensity. Hopefully it's a lesson learned that they need to bring it for 40 minutes, not 10 I'm with you sometimes man express what you feel about the games. I do it to. But to say we should win all the games we were "supposed" to is silly. It's college basketball. Were we supposed to beat SHU? Prob not. Played like crap most of the game but finished strong and won. I mean this supposed to thing is kinda rediculous. Iona never had a lead at any time during this game so they weren't supposed to win. They could have but they didn't. That's much different. Unless you are saying that because Iona was favored and is the better team they were supposed to win. If that's the case why even play the game? This team has improved a ton but they're still clearly not quite there and have lapses that are frustrating and head scratching I said losing because you didn't execute, or the other team just played better is one thing. Losing because you didn't play with any intensity for 30 minutes is totally different. I also can't disagree enough that the split is acceptable, since that's the norm. Not after beating Niagara and playing a Canisius team that isn't playing well and only had 7 scholarship players. They played 4 starters 37+ minutes. Tobin called 3 timeouts, and was fired up trying to spark the team, 1st 12 minutes of the game. Pretty safe to say he wasn't satisfied with the effort. Wanna bet Tobin and staff aren't traveling back from Buffalo, satisfied with the split? Obviously I'm in minority. Game is over. We can agree to disagree. |
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Post by broguy99 on Feb 10, 2024 18:32:06 GMT -5
I'm with you sometimes man express what you feel about the games. I do it to. But to say we should win all the games we were "supposed" to is silly. It's college basketball. Were we supposed to beat SHU? Prob not. Played like crap most of the game but finished strong and won. I mean this supposed to thing is kinda rediculous. Iona never had a lead at any time during this game so they weren't supposed to win. They could have but they didn't. That's much different. Unless you are saying that because Iona was favored and is the better team they were supposed to win. If that's the case why even play the game? This team has improved a ton but they're still clearly not quite there and have lapses that are frustrating and head scratching I said losing because you didn't execute, or the other team just played better is one thing. Losing because you didn't play with any intensity for 30 minutes is totally different. I also can't disagree enough that the split is acceptable, since that's the norm. Not after beating Niagara and playing a Canisius team that isn't playing well and only had 7 scholarship players. They played 4 starters 37+ minutes. Tobin called 3 timeouts, and was fired up trying to spark the team, 1st 12 minutes of the game. Pretty safe to say he wasn't satisfied with the effort. Wanna bet Tobin and staff aren't traveling back from Buffalo, satisfied with the split? Obviously I'm in minority. Game is over. We can agree to disagree. I think I replied to the wrong comment or mixed up who said what. My bad lol.. I'll move on. |
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Post by ic59 on Feb 10, 2024 18:36:55 GMT -5
I think the only team that has a chance at beating Iona if they play their "A" game would be Quinnipiac. Quinny will be upset by Rider in the quarterfinals Well at least one person is paying attention to my Pick Three Contest. |
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Post by GuyF on Feb 10, 2024 18:49:48 GMT -5
Per Haslametrics, Iona entered today as the 6th most erratic team in the country. We're probably gonna be even higher after today LOL. But certainly our last 3 games show we are not only erratic from game to game, but from half to half--and even smaller increments.
The erratic play is what triggers the emotion. We see the high end, and then we see the low end and we're all like WTF. But, we should understand the truth is in the middle, as our overall and league records show.
The erratic play is due to new coach, new system, new players, and freshmen in prominent roles. You can't say the new system thing is no longer valid, as many teams have many players with 2+ years in their systems--we are still "new" by comparison.
We took a step back today, but our overall play is trending upward, which is all we can ask for with the tourney a month out.
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Post by GuyF on Feb 10, 2024 18:50:24 GMT -5
Quinny will be upset by Rider in the quarterfinals Well at least one person is paying attention to my Pick Three Contest. I don't even know what this means. |
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Post by Joebird on Feb 10, 2024 19:19:48 GMT -5
We are “wildly inconsistent “ that’s for sure! But We could still win this.
On a different note guys comments about how hard it is to win on the road in any league is so true and why the net and Ken Pom are so unfair to mid majors. You are simply going to lose road games, no matter what league you are in and who you are. But if you lose games in a mid major your ratings plummet. Stick Kansas in the maac and see if they go 11-0 on the road in these little gyms, odds are they don’t. Ken Pom once put out a tweet statistically proving that a top 10 team was unlikely to go undefeated in one of these small leagues, yet his system has ratings that make it seem like a decent mid major team should never lose on the road. This drives me crazy, especially when you are a good mid major, you simply can’t afford to ever lose, and that is extremely difficult!
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