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Post by broguy99 on Feb 23, 2024 22:20:41 GMT -5
I doubt it. He's a 6'5 PF with limited skills. The MAAC is the right level for him. He has a nice NIL deal, which would have likely been higher next season. TA's words in there about building a culture made it seem like there was more to it. Two other key words he used were that this week has been a "soap opera" |
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Post by sharkey on Feb 23, 2024 22:21:57 GMT -5
I doubt it. He's a 6'5 PF with limited skills. The MAAC is the right level for him. He has a nice NIL deal, which would have likely been higher next season. TA's words in there about building a culture made it seem like there was more to it. Yeah, that's how I took it. |
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Post by gaelsiona on Feb 23, 2024 22:27:27 GMT -5
GG & TA obviously didn’t see eye to eye. He was already suspended. Just crazy a player leaves the program at the end of the year like this. He was playing so well and hard and his attitude on the court was always positive.
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Post by ic1983 on Feb 23, 2024 22:56:29 GMT -5
TA presser sounded a bit fishy "I wish it worked out" really seems more like GG just wanted out. Hope this had nothing to do with money and NIL. Would be a very bad look. I doubt it. He's a 6'5 PF with limited skills. The MAAC is the right level for him. He has a nice NIL deal, which would have likely been higher next season. 6’5”? I think that’s generous. |
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Post by iona1991 on Feb 24, 2024 7:13:19 GMT -5
For the record the Greg Gordon Twitter account has now UNLIKED the JUCOadvocate Tweet mentioned above.
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Post by IONA86 on Feb 24, 2024 8:25:16 GMT -5
In any group dynamic, including within a team, there can be internal challenges. It appears that Tobin and Greg had differing perspectives on how the team is run, either on and off the court. Nevertheless, it's crucial for everyone to abide by the rules and standards set by the coaching staff and the school. Departing from the team late in the season, unless under unavoidable circumstances, reflects poorly on one's commitment and loyalty to their teammates and coaches. Regardless of a player's skill level, abandoning the team before the conclusion of the season sets a negative example that other coaches may hesitate to add into their programs. Furthermore, walking away from ongoing academic commitments and college credits, may not serve Greg's long-term interests.
If Greg was experiencing dissatisfaction or mental health challenges, it would have been advisable for him to request a leave of absence to address these issues while completing his academic obligations and considering a transfer at the end of the academic year. Whatever led to his departure, whether it had been brewing for some time or was a spontaneous decision, appears to have been a hasty and ill-considered move.
I sincerely hope that Greg can find stability and success in his future endeavors. It's regrettable that the situation didn't work out for all parties involved. Now is the time for everyone to focus on moving forward.
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Post by sharkey on Feb 24, 2024 9:05:09 GMT -5
In any group dynamic, including within a team, there can be internal challenges. It appears that Tobin and Greg had differing perspectives on how the team is run, either on and off the court. Nevertheless, it's crucial for everyone to abide by the rules and standards set by the coaching staff and the school. Departing from the team late in the season, unless under unavoidable circumstances, reflects poorly on one's commitment and loyalty to their teammates and coaches. Regardless of a player's skill level, abandoning the team before the conclusion of the season sets a negative example that other coaches may hesitate to add into their programs. Furthermore, walking away from ongoing academic commitments and college credits, may not serve Greg's long-term interests. If Greg was experiencing dissatisfaction or mental health challenges, it would have been advisable for him to request a leave of absence to address these issues while completing his academic obligations and considering a transfer at the end of the academic year. Whatever led to his departure, whether it had been brewing for some time or was a spontaneous decision, appears to have been a hasty and ill-considered move. I sincerely hope that Greg can find stability and success in his future endeavors. It's regrettable that the situation didn't work out for all parties involved. Now is the time for everyone to focus on moving forward. Great post. Listening to Tobin’s presser, his answer to Guy's question kind of reveals what happened. He first mentioned it was a tough week filled with drama (obviously dealing with Gordon leaving the team) and then added its actually been a long 12 days. Going back 12 days would include the days before the Manhattan game, where GG said he wasn't with the team and he just returned the day before the game. Sorry, sounds like he bailed on the team twice. I mentioned to a couple other Iona fans before it was confirmed Gordon was leaving that in the last 30 seconds of the SPU game, he was upset on the court. No idea if it was because he was shoved to the floor by a SPU player or at Treout forcing that layup down 67-63. Regardless, as soon as game ended you could see on TV he went straight to the locker room, instead of staying on the court with the team and joining the handshake line. My initial reaction was, oh shit watch him get suspended for the Rider game. Little did I know there was obviously much more going on. Very unfortunate and disappointing it came down to this but it's the only acceptable outcome. Tobin mentioned culture multiple times in the presser. This is his 1st season so he really didn't have a choice. Have to set the standard now. Nice to see the guys fight in 2nd half, could have easily folded and got crushed. |
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Post by java on Feb 24, 2024 9:44:33 GMT -5
In any group dynamic, including within a team, there can be internal challenges. It appears that Tobin and Greg had differing perspectives on how the team is run, either on and off the court. Nevertheless, it's crucial for everyone to abide by the rules and standards set by the coaching staff and the school. Departing from the team late in the season, unless under unavoidable circumstances, reflects poorly on one's commitment and loyalty to their teammates and coaches. Regardless of a player's skill level, abandoning the team before the conclusion of the season sets a negative example that other coaches may hesitate to add into their programs. Furthermore, walking away from ongoing academic commitments and college credits, may not serve Greg's long-term interests. If Greg was experiencing dissatisfaction or mental health challenges, it would have been advisable for him to request a leave of absence to address these issues while completing his academic obligations and considering a transfer at the end of the academic year. Whatever led to his departure, whether it had been brewing for some time or was a spontaneous decision, appears to have been a hasty and ill-considered move. I sincerely hope that Greg can find stability and success in his future endeavors. It's regrettable that the situation didn't work out for all parties involved. Now is the time for everyone to focus on moving forward. Great post! For a minute there I thought you were referring to GregCrow. 🤪 |
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Post by St. Louis Gael on Feb 24, 2024 10:16:56 GMT -5
Events of past week go a long way to explain this season's development.
This team played its best basketball in the first few weeks of the season. It did not develop from there. I thought we regressed on the defensive side.
Perhaps Coach showed too much patience in trying to get one individual to join the "reservation". That raw personal and athletic talent blinded all of us. Most of all it blinded Greg Gordon. And it just cost him a s**t-load of money. I'll be surprised to see him on a D1 squad in the future.
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Post by broguy99 on Feb 24, 2024 12:06:36 GMT -5
Events of past week go a long way to explain this season's development. This team played its best basketball in the first few weeks of the season. It did not develop from there. I thought we regressed on the defensive side. Perhaps Coach showed too much patience in trying to get one individual to join the "reservation". That raw personal and athletic talent blinded all of us. Most of all it blinded Greg Gordon. And it just cost him a s**t-load of money. I'll be surprised to see him on a D1 squad in the future. Good points. GGs size/game can dominate the MAAC and similar or lower leagues. So I doubt he's going much higher and if he does he's not going to succeed like he did here. If you guys remember, Dashaun Much stepped away from the team temporarily when he was here but he ended coming back and Iona ended up winning another MAAC title. Don't think that's happening here but wonder if he regrets this decision to leave down the road. |
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Post by sharkey on Feb 24, 2024 12:19:15 GMT -5
Events of past week go a long way to explain this season's development. This team played its best basketball in the first few weeks of the season. It did not develop from there. I thought we regressed on the defensive side. Perhaps Coach showed too much patience in trying to get one individual to join the "reservation". That raw personal and athletic talent blinded all of us. Most of all it blinded Greg Gordon. And it just cost him a s**t-load of money. I'll be surprised to see him on a D1 squad in the future. Good points. GGs size/game can dominate the MAAC and similar or lower leagues. So I doubt he's going much higher and if he does he's not going to succeed like he did here. If you guys remember, Dashaun Much stepped away from the team temporarily when he was here but he ended coming back and Iona ended up winning another MAAC title. Don't think that's happening here but wonder if he regrets this decision to leave down the road. Same with Isaiah Williams, though he left to care for his brother who was running the streets. Much caught a big break. He was thrown off the team for going after Cluess after a game. TC allowed the team to vote and decide whether to let him back. Doubt we ever see GG again. He was reaching out last week already asking how the portal works |
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Post by gregcrow on Feb 24, 2024 12:46:36 GMT -5
Good points. GGs size/game can dominate the MAAC and similar or lower leagues. So I doubt he's going much higher and if he does he's not going to succeed like he did here. If you guys remember, Dashaun Much stepped away from the team temporarily when he was here but he ended coming back and Iona ended up winning another MAAC title. Don't think that's happening here but wonder if he regrets this decision to leave down the road. Same with Isaiah Williams, though he left to care for his brother who was running the streets. Much caught a big break. He was thrown off the team for going after Cluess after a game. TC allowed the team to vote and decide whether to let him back. Doubt we ever see GG again. He was reaching out last week already asking how the portal works What did you tell him? |
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Post by sharkey on Feb 24, 2024 12:53:01 GMT -5
Same with Isaiah Williams, though he left to care for his brother who was running the streets. Much caught a big break. He was thrown off the team for going after Cluess after a game. TC allowed the team to vote and decide whether to let him back. Doubt we ever see GG again. He was reaching out last week already asking how the portal works What did you tell him? To have his people contact my people |
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Post by ic59 on Feb 24, 2024 12:56:17 GMT -5
Events of past week go a long way to explain this season's development. This team played its best basketball in the first few weeks of the season. It did not develop from there. I thought we regressed on the defensive side. Perhaps Coach showed too much patience in trying to get one individual to join the "reservation". That raw personal and athletic talent blinded all of us. Most of all it blinded Greg Gordon. And it just cost him a s**t-load of money. I'll be surprised to see him on a D1 squad in the future. SLG, while you might be correct, I'm guessing that we will see him on a D1 roster, though maybe not a HM. And I'm basing this opinion on the post of an 8Y player playing for Manhattan, last night. If teams will give a scholarship to an 8Y guy for about a dozen games, I think they'll give one to a talented, if troubled guy like GG. Time will tell. |
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Post by java on Feb 24, 2024 13:05:08 GMT -5
Events of past week go a long way to explain this season's development. This team played its best basketball in the first few weeks of the season. It did not develop from there. I thought we regressed on the defensive side. Perhaps Coach showed too much patience in trying to get one individual to join the "reservation". That raw personal and athletic talent blinded all of us. Most of all it blinded Greg Gordon. And it just cost him a s**t-load of money. I'll be surprised to see him on a D1 squad in the future. Good points. GGs size/game can dominate the MAAC and similar or lower leagues. So I doubt he's going much higher and if he does he's not going to succeed like he did here. If you guys remember, Dashaun Much stepped away from the team temporarily when he was here but he ended coming back and Iona ended up winning another MAAC title. Don't think that's happening here but wonder if he regrets this decision to leave down the road. What’s he gonna do go to a program like Drexel or Hofstra and be the 4th or 5th option. I agree he’s a perfect MAAC type player |
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