Funny I just read the life support comment from Sharkey as well in the other thread.
Lol. It is what it is. I have tried to keep the faith and find a path to top 5, but this weekend killed it for me.
Grad transfers were just underwhelming and outside the rare game never learned how to win. Now without Gordon, Tobin has no choice but to have them bomb away from three. 31 attempts today.
Zero chance they can be consistent enough for 4 straight games in AC
These stats show Tobin has no choice to bomb away. The loss of Gordon gutted any interior offense Again 1st # is shots, 2nd made
Panzo 7/44 Oz 18/64 Adewale 85/51..not many attempts
Lol. It is what it is. I have tried to keep the faith and find a path to top 5, but this weekend killed it for me.
Grad transfers were just underwhelming and outside the rare game never learned how to win. Now without Gordon, Tobin has no choice but to have them bomb away from three. 31 attempts today.
Zero chance they can be consistent enough for 4 straight games in AC
These stats show Tobin has no choice to bomb away. The loss of Gordon gutted any interior offense Again 1st # is shots, 2nd made
Panzo 7/44 Oz 18/64 Adewale 85/51..not many attempts
Gordon 65% of his shots at the rim making 66%
Significant loss
The bombs away philosophy makes sense. Wouldn’t it make sense to at least experiment with Saunders as he as shown the ability to make an outside shot. At the very least it should force the defense to cover him and perhaps create more open looks for Panzo, Oz, and Tretout.
These stats show Tobin has no choice to bomb away. The loss of Gordon gutted any interior offense Again 1st # is shots, 2nd made
Panzo 7/44 Oz 18/64 Adewale 85/51..not many attempts
Gordon 65% of his shots at the rim making 66%
Significant loss
The bombs away philosophy makes sense. Wouldn’t it make sense to at least experiment with Saunders as he as shown the ability to make an outside shot. At the very least it should force the defense to cover him and perhaps create more open looks for Panzo, Oz, and Tretout.
Yeah, probably should throw him out there at this point. He played a few minutes the other day, made a short jumper, but he was completely lost on defense. Maybe Tobin thinks the net loss of a couple possible made threes and points given up on D, isn't worth it?
Personally, I would like to see Saunders, Bates and Brice get more PT
Actually, this is a question for Begaels and other recent grads who post here. Why has student support been so poor this year? It's been a season long problem.
Lol. It is what it is. I have tried to keep the faith and find a path to top 5, but this weekend killed it for me.
Grad transfers were just underwhelming and outside the rare game never learned how to win. Now without Gordon, Tobin has no choice but to have them bomb away from three. 31 attempts today.
Zero chance they can be consistent enough for 4 straight games in AC
These stats show Tobin has no choice to bomb away. The loss of Gordon gutted any interior offense Again 1st # is shots, 2nd made
Panzo 7/44 Oz 18/64 Adewale 85/51..not many attempts
Gordon 65% of his shots at the rim making 66%
Significant loss
Our offense seem to have been most efficient when Tretout was out with his injury. I'm not saying Tretout is the problem here. I don't know. But we had more balance as Greg provided a lot of interior scoring and JQ and Panzo provided enough of an outside threat. With Tretout out, Greg became the primary scorer. Once he came back, I'm speculating Greg didn't want to relinquish that role to Tretout. With Greg gone we've lost a lot of the interior scoring. We have players who try to get to the rim but struggle at finishing. Lack of size hurts. And I think Sultan plays well when he's in, but he's a first year player.
In my opinion, we rely heavily on first year players in significant roles, going against much older, more experienced players. Also physically bigger players. JQ, Jean, Sultan have shown me enough to feel good that if they return we have a very good nucleus to build upon. Saunders and Bates will contribute if they return. At this point I don't see them as starters, but role players. We have 3 commits for next year, a couple of guys who can score, run an offense, and some significant size. If they show up, they will contribute, but they will be freshmen next year. So we're probably two years away from the team we'd like to see, and we can blame a combination of the former guy and the new landscape of college hoops for that. Tobin tried his best but he had to build a team from scratch. He had to convince guys to come here when there was no one else actually here they could rely upon playing with. I think he did a pretty good job given the task he was handed.
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Actually, this is a question for Begaels and other recent grads who post here. Why has student support been so poor this year? It's been a season long problem.
Poor attendance by students under Pitino, non existent under Anderson. The Espn friday night game against manhattan was a no show. Surprising.
Actually, this is a question for Begaels and other recent grads who post here. Why has student support been so poor this year? It's been a season long problem.
Poor attendance by students under Pitino, non existent under Anderson. The Espn friday night game against manhattan was a no show. Surprising.
You see people on social media complaining about student attendance all across mid-major basketball, not just Iona.
Actually, this is a question for Begaels and other recent grads who post here. Why has student support been so poor this year? It's been a season long problem.
This is what we are worried about? Sorry bff if this is bein mean. Season up in the air and worried why kids don't like basketball lol
These stats show Tobin has no choice to bomb away. The loss of Gordon gutted any interior offense Again 1st # is shots, 2nd made
Panzo 7/44 Oz 18/64 Adewale 85/51..not many attempts
Gordon 65% of his shots at the rim making 66%
Significant loss
Our offense seem to have been most efficient when Tretout was out with his injury. I'm not saying Tretout is the problem here. I don't know. But we had more balance as Greg provided a lot of interior scoring and JQ and Panzo provided enough of an outside threat. With Tretout out, Greg became the primary scorer. Once he came back, I'm speculating Greg didn't want to relinquish that role to Tretout. With Greg gone we've lost a lot of the interior scoring. We have players who try to get to the rim but struggle at finishing. Lack of size hurts. And I think Sultan plays well when he's in, but he's a first year player.
In my opinion, we rely heavily on first year players in significant roles, going against much older, more experienced players. Also physically bigger players. JQ, Jean, Sultan have shown me enough to feel good that if they return we have a very good nucleus to build upon. Saunders and Bates will contribute if they return. At this point I don't see them as starters, but role players. We have 3 commits for next year, a couple of guys who can score, run an offense, and some significant size. If they show up, they will contribute, but they will be freshmen next year. So we're probably two years away from the team we'd like to see, and we can blame a combination of the former guy and the new landscape of college hoops for that. Tobin tried his best but he had to build a team from scratch. He had to convince guys to come here when there was no one else actually here they could rely upon playing with. I think he did a pretty good job given the task he was handed.
I think the offense was better because the D was way better. We were getting easy baskets off deflections and steals before defenses set up. With tretot in the middle he is to slow and indecisive on when to double.
These stats show Tobin has no choice to bomb away. The loss of Gordon gutted any interior offense Again 1st # is shots, 2nd made
Panzo 7/44 Oz 18/64 Adewale 85/51..not many attempts
Gordon 65% of his shots at the rim making 66%
Significant loss
Our offense seem to have been most efficient when Tretout was out with his injury. I'm not saying Tretout is the problem here. I don't know. But we had more balance as Greg provided a lot of interior scoring and JQ and Panzo provided enough of an outside threat. With Tretout out, Greg became the primary scorer. Once he came back, I'm speculating Greg didn't want to relinquish that role to Tretout. With Greg gone we've lost a lot of the interior scoring. We have players who try to get to the rim but struggle at finishing. Lack of size hurts. And I think Sultan plays well when he's in, but he's a first year player.
In my opinion, we rely heavily on first year players in significant roles, going against much older, more experienced players. Also physically bigger players. JQ, Jean, Sultan have shown me enough to feel good that if they return we have a very good nucleus to build upon. Saunders and Bates will contribute if they return. At this point I don't see them as starters, but role players. We have 3 commits for next year, a couple of guys who can score, run an offense, and some significant size. If they show up, they will contribute, but they will be freshmen next year. So we're probably two years away from the team we'd like to see, and we can blame a combination of the former guy and the new landscape of college hoops for that. Tobin tried his best but he had to build a team from scratch. He had to convince guys to come here when there was no one else actually here they could rely upon playing with. I think he did a pretty good job given the task he was handed.
I thought the same as you did about Tretout/Gordon. I agree about the freshman.
Just trying to find a path to feeling good about the future!
I’m with you!
I was in the hospital last month with Covid. Hell I am just glad I could make yesterday's game and am looking forward to Atlantic City. It is just basketball.
Re: Attendance. You take away the band and the cheerleaders and I bet there weren't 50 students at yesterday's game. I know it is a small school but MSM is in the middle of nowhere.
