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Post by hawaii bill on Mar 19, 2024 12:34:50 GMT -5
Complete insanity. Really hope we can land those FDU kids so there is atleast someone that knows Tobin’s system. Yeah it is crazy. |
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Post by hawaii bill on Mar 19, 2024 12:35:56 GMT -5
Optics not good here. Hard to place the blame entirely on NIL and the portal when 6 of the 7 p;ayers recruitrd by the staff leave within 24 hours. This iincludes players recruited by the staff for FDU. So what should we do? |
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Post by gaelsiona on Mar 19, 2024 12:40:12 GMT -5
Optics not good here. Hard to place the blame entirely on NIL and the portal when 6 of the 7 p;ayers recruitrd by the staff leave within 24 hours. This iincludes players recruited by the staff for FDU. So what should we do? You give TA another year. If it’s not a good year, see ya later |
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Post by Super on Mar 19, 2024 12:40:14 GMT -5
Optics not good here. Hard to place the blame entirely on NIL and the portal when 6 of the 7 p;ayers recruitrd by the staff leave within 24 hours. This iincludes players recruited by the staff for FDU. So what should we do? That's the AD's job when he evaluates the program and the staff. |
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Post by ic1983 on Mar 19, 2024 12:40:37 GMT -5
Optics not good here. Hard to place the blame entirely on NIL and the portal when 6 of the 7 p;ayers recruitrd by the staff leave within 24 hours. This iincludes players recruited by the staff for FDU. So what should we do? Optics are terrible. Tobin and his staff recruited each of these guys, so ultimately he’s responsible for a lost year. |
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Post by hawaii bill on Mar 19, 2024 12:42:30 GMT -5
Optics are terrible. Tobin and his staff recruited each of these guys, so ultimately he’s responsible for a lost year. I agree the optics are terrible. |
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Post by Cjb on Mar 19, 2024 12:42:56 GMT -5
Optics are terrible. Tobin and his staff recruited each of these guys, so ultimately he’s responsible for a lost year. I’m pissed about this whole thing, but I can’t put all the blame on him. These coaches are navigating through uncharted waters. It not limited to Iona, it’s everywhere. This is the mess that’s been created. |
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Post by java on Mar 19, 2024 12:48:55 GMT -5
If Jean bails, that’s a clean sweep
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Post by ichoops2018 on Mar 19, 2024 12:49:57 GMT -5
Jeans gonna bail too. That dumb burner account said so lol
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Post by iona1970 on Mar 19, 2024 12:54:48 GMT -5
Optics are terrible. Tobin and his staff recruited each of these guys, so ultimately he’s responsible for a lost year. I’m pissed about this whole thing, but I can’t put all the blame on him. These coaches are navigating through uncharted waters. It not limited to Iona, it’s everywhere. This is the mess that’s been created. If we lose everyone that is a coach problem if other schools are keeping kids |
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Post by java on Mar 19, 2024 12:55:00 GMT -5
Optics not good here. Hard to place the blame entirely on NIL and the portal when 6 of the 7 p;ayers recruitrd by the staff leave within 24 hours. This iincludes players recruited by the staff for FDU. Good point Super! I’m really surprised Quigley left. Thought he had a good chance of starting at the point next season. There must be more to it than promises from recruiters of greener pastures. We’ll never know for sure but I would suspect the mass departure is a combination of player and coaching issues. |
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Post by jim on Mar 19, 2024 12:57:34 GMT -5
If you believe in a coach and respect him, you don't bail on him. The whole team left.. It's on him. Something is terribly wrong with the program he is running. Unless Tobin is cleaning house which I doubt
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Post by java on Mar 19, 2024 12:58:29 GMT -5
The more I think about it, 12 grad transfers is not a bad idea. A boatload of one year guys, lather rinse and repeat each year. School might go broke paying for senior night but so be it.
This environment sucks.
We would’ve never kept AJ in these times.
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Post by hurtinturkey on Mar 19, 2024 13:02:00 GMT -5
Not sure what the answer is to this mess, however not every mid-major is losing 8 of the ten players they were expecting back. I went to many, many games this season and this team didn't seem to be getting along as "team", and that was just one issue fans saw. Yes, we are in a new era of college sports, the NIL era where these players are paid professionals. However, every mid-major is facing the same challenges and those that figure out how to recruit and retain the right players, will excel and those who run off almost their entire team each year will not succeed. Go Gaels!
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Post by ic1983 on Mar 19, 2024 13:08:37 GMT -5
Optics are terrible. Tobin and his staff recruited each of these guys, so ultimately he’s responsible for a lost year. I’m pissed about this whole thing, but I can’t put all the blame on him. These coaches are navigating through uncharted waters. It not limited to Iona, it’s everywhere. This is the mess that’s been created. I see a difference here between “blame” and “responsibility”. If you are in charge you are responsible for what happens under your watch, absent an act of God or natural disaster. Tobin recruited these guys, so if we have a collective recruiting failure, and it could certainly be viewed that way, that’s on Tobin. I still don’t believe that Tobin is an ogre that is driving these kids out, and if they are leaving because they don’t like the amount of PT they got or what they were told in practice, to me that suggests we had a very soft group. I did not see any real mental toughness on display during games, with the exception of Os and Brown, and very little in the way of basketball IQ, with the exception of Os, Brown, and and at times Aranguren (he made a bunch of frosh mistakes but he was one of the few players to grasp the fact that if you cut to the hoop without the ball, or saw someone doing so, that was a scoring opportunity). Lost season and a complete redo now. Hope we get players who are a lot tougher mentally, understand the game better, and can hit free throws. So to me the responsibility is on Tobin. Blame TBD. |
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