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Post by hawaii bill on Jan 31, 2012 11:22:12 GMT -5
Well its the only precedent we have to go on. Their SOS was 191 out of 302. Not exactly impressive. But I understand your point. I agree it is what we should go by. We compare unfavorably to that Manhattan team. BTW our strength of schedule per Sagrain is 179. There are more teams now however. Those 2 bad losses killed us. C, Lunardi made the point its not so much the bad losses, but rather what good W's do you have. Right now if we'd have beaten Purdue and Marshall, not sure that would've helped us all that much as they are borderline top 50. That's the problem with Iona or any MAAC school who is projected to be good - getting good teams to play us and opportunities for good W's. We have to get them at pre-season tourneys at neutral sites. And that's why the BB is so important. Not sure Nevada gives us that bump we would need though.
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Post by GuyF on Jan 31, 2012 11:40:16 GMT -5
BTW, someone needs to blow up a photo of Cluess's face for the students to wave in the stands. Either that, or there should be a "Cluess Moustache Night", where all attendees show up wearing moustaches. Would be HILARIOUS. SID--get on this! LOL
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Post by chelseadal on Jan 31, 2012 13:22:29 GMT -5
I agree it is what we should go by. We compare unfavorably to that Manhattan team. BTW our strength of schedule per Sagrain is 179. There are more teams now however. Those 2 bad losses killed us. C, Lunardi made the point its not so much the bad losses, but rather what good W's do you have. Right now if we'd have beaten Purdue and Marshall, not sure that would've helped us all that much as they are borderline top 50. That's the problem with Iona or any MAAC school who is projected to be good - getting good teams to play us and opportunities for good W's. We have to get them at pre-season tourneys at neutral sites. And that's why the BB is so important. Not sure Nevada gives us that bump we would need though.
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Post by Joebird on Jan 31, 2012 14:40:32 GMT -5
Sorry, but I did want to add that there WOULD BE a couple parameters that would be in our favor if we win out to the MAAC final. First off, the loss would HAVE to be against Loyola, which has an RPI in the 70s I believe and probably won't dip much. We would have beaten them twice if we win out, so losing to a good team like this on a third try would be more "acceptable" than had we lost a league game to them already. But, more importantly, the selection committee does care about a couple parameters that we'd fare well with. First is the wins away from home category. Iona would likely lead the nation or be very close to it if we win out. Second is your record in the last 10 games; obviously with winning out until the MAAC final we'd be 9-1. If we win out and lose to Loyola in the MAAC finals, our RPI will probably be in the 40s, though, still not great. Despite all I've just said, I still think we'd be on the outside looking in. On the flip side, if we win out and WIN the MAAC Tourney, our RPI would probably be in the high 30s, and with a 28-5 record or whatever we MAY be in the running for an 11 seed but should be comfortably at a 12. I am in total agreement with this post, exactly what I think. We will just miss an at large bid if we win out in lose in the championship but we will very much be in the discussion.
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